DGMarsden Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 How easy is it to fit one of these panels? Do you need special belden cable and resistors like the galaxy or can you simply use normal 6/8/12 core cable like a texecom or ADE? All help greatly received. Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 So youv'e gone off the Galaxy then!! Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGMarsden Posted April 26, 2004 Author Share Posted April 26, 2004 Not gone off the galaxy just wondering which to get from an ease of instalation point of view. Does anyone have any ideas on my original post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Both very similar althought quite different terminology. The Menvier is both double pole + eol (now you have learnt all about eol!! ) I am normally a Galaxy man but on this occasion I would recommend the Menvier ...just my opinion Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGMarsden Posted April 26, 2004 Author Share Posted April 26, 2004 Double Pole?? This is something new lol. Basically what do i need to change from an ADE with normal alarm cable for everything to a Menvier? Thanks for all your patience with me! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 the majority of domestic (ADE inc.) are double pole. i.e. cct and tamper. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breff Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 You shouldnt need to change any cabling, ADE rkp uses 6 cores Menvier is 5, TS900 can be wired double pole or EOL The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSTER Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 TS900+ IS IN EXCELLENT PANEL AND VERY EXPANDABLE IS THE 8 ZONE (6 ON BOARD + 2 IN KEYPAD) TS690 BIG ENOUGH IT'S QUIET A BIT CHEAPER, EASY TO PROGRAMME AND VERY RELIABLE Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sucker69 Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Can someone please explain in basic english what is meant by the following: End on line ? Double pole ? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaseven Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 End of line (EOL) means that the panel is checking for a certain resistance on each alarm circuit. Eg, on DSC systems, the single end of line resistor is 5.6K, so, if the panel reads 5.6K on the circuit, it shows the zone as 'closed'. If it reads 0 ohms (open circuit) or closed circuit, it shows the zone as 'open'. With this system is harder to bypass a zone by shorting out the appropriate wires in the cable. With double end of line (DEOL), two resistors of different values are used, one in series with the activation switch (to represent a tamper), and one in parallel (to represent an alarm condition). So, imagine a panel using 1K for tamper and 2K for activation. In 'closed', only the tamper (1K) will be in the circuit (as the 2K is shorted by the activation switch), and the circuit will read 1K. If the detector triggers, the 2K is brought into the circuit, and the resistance goes up to 3K (1K + 2K). If the detector is tampered, the circuit is broken completely(open circuit), and the panel will read the tamper. When using double pole, two separate circuits are formed between each detector and the panel. One, will be for the activation circuit (the normal alarm circuit), and the other for the tamper circuit. Hope this makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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