September 15, 200718 yr comment_178240 Not that anyone is bothered but i don't want to design fire alarms. i just wanted to know why it merits 30k because if you mess up then the company scores as it's the designer who goes to the dock not the company. so i guess if you want someone to stick their neck on the line for a company then it's got to be worth their while. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/20694-system-design-fire/page/3/#findComment-178240 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
September 15, 200718 yr comment_178244 because if you mess up then the company scores as it's the designer who goes to the dock not the company.so i guess if you want someone to stick their neck on the line for a company then it's got to be worth their while. is that correct though g? i ask as i thought the company md and board of directors were overall responsible, and also is not protected by a Ltd company status. my info on this is solely based on half baked ill informed conversations with wholesaler based 'lawyers'. as a comparison, my ruling half works as the chief accountant or her firm, so when the VAT return is done being a really craft cow she gets the MD to sign it making him responsible for any mistakes (if any that is, for gods sake don't ever say i said she could ever make a mistake ). regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/20694-system-design-fire/page/3/#findComment-178244 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
September 16, 200718 yr comment_178289 is that correct though g? i ask as i thought the company md and board of directors were overall responsible, and also is not protected by a Ltd company status. my info on this is solely based on half baked ill informed conversations with wholesaler based 'lawyers'. as a comparison, my ruling half works as the chief accountant or her firm, so when the VAT return is done being a really craft cow she gets the MD to sign it making him responsible for any mistakes (if any that is, for gods sake don't ever say i said she could ever make a mistake ). regs alan used to be the case as thats where the money was but now they are only interested in the person who puts their signature to the paper Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/20694-system-design-fire/page/3/#findComment-178289 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
September 16, 200718 yr comment_178298 is that correct though g? i ask as i thought the company md and board of directors were overall responsible, and also is not protected by a Ltd company status. my info on this is solely based on half baked ill informed conversations with wholesaler based 'lawyers'. as a comparison, my ruling half works as the chief accountant or her firm, so when the VAT return is done being a really craft cow she gets the MD to sign it making him responsible for any mistakes (if any that is, for gods sake don't ever say i said she could ever make a mistake ). regs alan It is now the case that CDM 2007 means that everyone is liable and the specific person for each stage of a project is responsible (and this is not confined to fire alarms but projects in general - in excess of 30 days it's notifiable to the HSE). So if it transpires that the designer is at fault for Mr Smith not going home anymore he hits the courts. You can only fine a corporation but you can jail the individual. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/20694-system-design-fire/page/3/#findComment-178298 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
September 16, 200718 yr comment_178321 honest thanks for the clarification replies guys, this situation has got to play havoc with the insurance cover for wrongful advise, not that you would give it but we all pay for the numties who don't pay attention regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/20694-system-design-fire/page/3/#findComment-178321 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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