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[Guest anguscanplay]

@anguscanplay

Thanks for that info.I do have some light in the areas to be covered, I have a 90w floodlight in one area which goes to 150w when activtaed by pir movement. The 2nd area has 2x 60 wall lanterns which do throw out projected light onto the area to be covered by the new cam. Might this be enough light or would this still be classed as low light?

try the newspaper test - if you can read it youll be fine with any decent camera - now the but ( theres always one ) at your price level you will always get a better picture with a black and white camera rather than a color one - its to do with the infra-red which b/w can see but color cannot

me i have b/w ones once they have left the sceen and your reviewing footage the color of their top isnt going to be much help

[wombats]

Thanks for the tip, but you can't do the newspaper test until you have taken the plunge and bought the cam.That is why i am trying to get advice on which one to buy.

I have B/w cams now and are wanting to change to colour as b/w juat shows a white blur of peoples faces and i were told that a half decent colour would possible make this clearer.

[barooga]

Thanks for the tip, but you can't do the newspaper test until you have taken the plunge and bought the cam.That is why i am trying to get advice on which one to buy.

I have B/w cams now and are wanting to change to colour as b/w juat shows a white blur of peoples faces and i were told that a half decent colour would possible make this clearer.

If tip top kit was available at budget prices do you think the trade would ignore it?? No.

What angus is saying does not require a camera to test. If you can't read a newspaper in the location you are concerned about, how do you expect the camera to produce quality, useable images??

You can spend all the money you like, but if the resulting images are unusable then you are wasting both your time and money.

You now tell us you have B/W cameras, means nothing. Chances are they are low quality/not suitable for purpose etc.

Ask yourself this. Why do the cameras use colour during the day and B/W at night??

[Guest anguscanplay]

Thanks for the tip, but you can't do the newspaper test until you have taken the plunge and bought the cam.That is why i am trying to get advice on which one to buy.

I have B/w cams now and are wanting to change to colour as b/w juat shows a white blur of peoples faces and i were told that a half decent colour would possible make this clearer.

fur in your eyes again is there , go outside tonight with a newspaper - if you cant read it you need more light

if its blurred in the day its out of focus - as are 99.9% but color never as good as b/w at night

[wombats]

You now tell us you have B/W cameras, means nothing. Chances are they are low quality/not suitable for purpose etc

Yes that is correct they are not suitable as at night the image is just not clear enough to work out the identity of people, although day time use is ok. I did pay

[Guest anguscanplay]

Yes that is correct they are not suitable as at night the image is just not clear enough to work out the identity of people, although day time use is ok. I did pay

[wombats]

Info appreciated, I will be going for a vari-focal cam because i don't know where i will set i t too yet. Don't particulary need it for court evidence,mainly just to identify local culpits known to the police.

[Guest anguscanplay]

Info appreciated, I will be going for a vari-focal cam because i don't know where i will set i t too yet. Don't particulary need it for court evidence,mainly just to identify local culpits known to the police.

for you to identify or for the police to identify - be very caeful if you are filming minors

[barooga]

Info appreciated, I will be going for a vari-focal cam because i don't know where i will set i t too yet. Don't particulary need it for court evidence,mainly just to identify local culpits known to the police.

So you still need decent gear then.

If you want an example of how cheap, wrongly specced tat looks, watch the crimebuster ads. Do you know this grey apparition???

[Guest anguscanplay]

As a CCTV specialist I hope that I would recognise when CCTV is not the most appropriate answer to a client's problems.

Schools are a classic example of the end user thinking that CCTV is the answer to all their problems and external CCTV rarely works.

Look at the operational requirement.

If you manage to gain reasonable images of the intruders what happens next?

If the caretaker happens to be monitoring the system and sees intruders 'live' what is he expected to do?

In my opinion target hardening is the route to go, fencing and aggressive planting to keep them out would be a more effective us of the Client's budget.

Hope this opinion does not ruffle too many feathers!

Ilkie

not just me thinks like this then