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Gus mentioned using keypads for advertising many years ago on here.
I think that many in the industry can use this and more to reduce initial cost to the end user.
However i dont think currently its a starter. The problem with using a security based appliance as an advertising front end is the lack of time spent with it. IF we were to catch up and be at the forefront of automation, energy saving etc then the security system 'could' be the portal used to access this infomation. Unfortunatly the industry is still managed by the old school and do not understand there is any need for revolution. Joe, can you get your crowd back into the BSIA and get yourself on a committee or 2?
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J, Very interesting, and covers a lot more than your direct interest.
Im assuming you think the final mile (ie the arc) is an easier attack point if its known than the individual site/system.
To minimise the exposed footprint from send point to recieve point what would you suggest? Private circuits or VPN's.
From the transmission point of view its easier to attack the fixed line (pstn) side than anything else but also the gsm side can be vulnerable. Id of thought that any high grade system based on regular polling would be immune to the reporting (not the attack) but if using an ATS 5 device if the device was attacked this would be shown in less than 3 minutes.
However if the end that handles that reporting is attacked what would happen then? I assume a DOS style attack on an ARC would be more effective if it swamped it with false signals. The more i think about it the more it seems the arc is the most effective attack point?
James
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i dont see that the replacement issue is a problem. This would be on a rolling upgrade programme AFTER a loss or during a change of insurer. It depends what the insurers do with this. They have 3 choices as i see it. LPS, Form xxx or status quo
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great piece jim. Id agree on the lps 1277 point im also intrigued as to what happens here regarding demand etc
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The cost is a critical point. But with the flood of cheap mobiles with decentish screens there must be a way of using them?
The phone id expect to be integrated into the control panel, and this would be used (as already is in some panels) for 2 way comms with the engineer, the arc etc. Id want the voice to be available when doing udl somehow.
Need bluetooth only if bluetooth is going to be used as an interface point. I dont think it has the range for us.
If panels had wifi or ethernet then an adhoc wifi link would be more beneficial for small stuff and if there is a router could be infrastructure mode. IMO using wifi, pstn and gprs for comms would be a good mix.
SD slot not needed IMO would prefer to be able to upload images to the panel software. That way of you have mutliple keypads it would be easier.
Depending on the OS of the keypad (phone os android etc) then it might allow 'apps' and an exisiting development environment. That way anything could be integrated, but i think early days a cctv app and a means to get video (or ipcams) on the keypad and through the ip web i/f of the panel would be fine.
re using keypads as wall mounted picture displays, it would need an sd card somewhere to hold these but id also like the option of logging into facebook and picasa etc and showing pictures from there. No point in loading pictures from everywhere.
Android as a keypad OS might be a good idea. Especially with google tv, android phone handsets, chrome laptops etc. Would allow an easier integration path for the manufacturer. Imagine getting your security system up on your google tv and it communicationg via IP picking up alarm info, logs, cctv images, access control etc.
From a HA point of view i personally want the HOME CONTROL PANEL to run my heating and lighting etc. Then it can learn my usual lighting habits. Then it can easily replay them when its set.
Problem as i see it, if our industry doesnt do it then another will.
Id also advice the comms is modular, ie if i want zigbee i buy a zigbee portal. If i want c bus i buy a c-bus portal, if i want cctv i buy that etc etc.
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facebook is just one thing, im mainly meaning integration with the web and web services. If the framework exisited to make little plugins for these things then it would be possible for them to written outside of the manufacturer.
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cant say i disagree but isnt that progress, ie change or die.
Id also say that if we (the security sector) dont embrace this then someone else will and they will be the security provider. No-one is better placed than us to offer this package. Granted we are not there yet, but we dont have compliant product so we cant. As has been seen by the consumer appliance manufactures just with wifi as an example. The N std was ratified but they were all making gear to its draft. We wouldnt dream of doing that for the right reasons, but we need to wake up IMO and see the future.
We have made some progress, UDL, wireless etc, but compared to other sectors we are so behind the times its shocking.
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arf i dont agree. IMO and it is that selling an alarm in this way is wrong.
Its not just me as so do trading stds etc.
I think if you do practice this id stop
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James, you make no mention of my damming remarks regarding the programs experts input, care to now?
Arfur
Arf you know me, in for a penny in for a pounding
but in what way. ask me a question and ill try to answer it.
By the way his name is Graeme Dow.
James
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arf, are you basing that on the blog entries from the company themselves?
I wonder why the BBC targeted Mr Hook specifically, would that be because the previous complaints made were about him as well as direct?
If so why did it take watchdog to get involved for the guy to be sacked?
ps i also think that any alarm company basing its pitch on fear is wrong, while those things do happen they are the exception not the rule.
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Cant wait Arf.
Ill find it interesting as I have only worked on modern microprocessed panel (maybe some later logic based stuff but not much)
Do you have pics of these things too?
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Great Read Jim, Thanks. I know some of that but certainly not all. Agreed on the 3g i think that is a huge development.