Guest Adrian Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Ok here it is its a printing factory that has about 7-8 computers networked up, They already have broadband installed (512kb) that is shared by any computer that is pluged into it, (I,m not a telacoms or phone network person) They showed me where on their box of tricks that they have 4 spare conections to plug any comuter in to so it can also use broadband, The sockets look the same as my socked on my broadband connection at home. What I need to know is, the distance from the DVR is about 25m to their box of tricks is cat 5 suitable, what is the name of the plugs on both ends and are they easy to make up. and most important is 25m to far for this to work. I'm going to be using LJDs Leviathan range of DVRs for remote access Adrian Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian c Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I'm pretty sure that all you need to do is run a cat5 cable from the dvr to their 'box of tricks' (hub, I assume) and plug it in at both ends. You will need a RJ45 connector at each end they and are fairly simple to make up if you have RJ45 crimps! (I think any runs less than 100m are fine) If you don't know......ask. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian.cant Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Im pretty sure you can buy patch leads at about 20 mtrs so i dont think 25 will be a problem. btw even B&Q are selling patch leads these days. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb-eye Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Dynamic IP's can be used although fixed are less stressful. This site here:- http://www.no-ip.com/services/page/free/dynamic/dns has a nice little free program that will generate a static hostname for a dynamic IP address PC so a CS or external computer can see the CCTV system thus be able to dial in. Or something like that. Works well on my installations. The free version gives you a 5 host limit but for a one-off payment of about £8, you can have unlimited hosts for life. Also, if your CCTV system is PC based and suffers all the hassles that a home PC does, eg:- crashes/re-boots/gets thrown from it's internet connection, short of attending the site of the offending CCTV PC to re-connect to the internet everytime theres a problem, try this nice little program http://www.handyarchive.com/internet/dial-...1st-dialer.html as this will re-connect to a broadband connection if it's thrown, timed-out, or accidentally disconnected. It will even connect automatically to the internet as soon as a PC based DVR starts up. Only the line itself being killed will stop your connection. Quite handy?? Yes. Free too! 32720[/snapback] So stay with fixed IP then jef Customers! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Don't you have to be within about 3 mtrs of the Broadband comms jack otherwise problems arise? Something to do with the filters maybe. 32911[/snapback] Nope. Probably some manufacturers recomendation but not actually based on any facts etc... Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Ok here it isits a printing factory that has about 7-8 computers networked up, They already have broadband installed (512kb) that is shared by any computer that is pluged into it, (I,m not a telacoms or phone network person) They showed me where on their box of tricks that they have 4 spare conections to plug any comuter in to so it can also use broadband, The sockets look the same as my socked on my broadband connection at home. What I need to know is, the distance from the DVR is about 25m to their box of tricks is cat 5 suitable, what is the name of the plugs on both ends and are they easy to make up. and most important is 25m to far for this to work. I'm going to be using LJDs Leviathan range of DVRs for remote access Adrian 32918[/snapback] Be careful when eyeing up similar looking sockets, they're not always the same thing! In this instance the 'box of tricks' would be the network hub or switch. The Leviathan can connect directly into this but you will need to set the Leviathan up for the network. You will also need to set up the modem for remote access, (probably, depending what it is exactly). The cable between these can be cat5e with a couple of RJ45 plugs, although technically for fixed runs the solid core should be used and the plugs are only meant to be fitted to stranded cat5. To get around this you could fit a length of solid core cat5 with a socket at each end and then a patch lead into the switch and Leviathan. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompostCORNER Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 So stay with fixed IP thenjef 32934[/snapback] Thats errm, not that easy here in Hull. Kingston Communications run Karoo. Karoo is our internet provider in Hull and the surrounding area. There is no alternative ISP except satillite. Even BT don't come to Hull. I've heard BT only charge £1 to swap a dynamic IP for a fixed one. Compare that to an £800 one off charge for fixed IP and £80 per month for connection with Karoo. You'll realise that my post did serve some validity. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian c Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Surely you can get other ISP's on Kingston's network? Wanadoo, AOL, Tiscali, Etc. Otherwise, as suggested, you can use www.no-ip.com If you don't know......ask. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Surely you can get other ISP's on Kingston's network? Wanadoo, AOL, Tiscali, Etc. 32997[/snapback] Nope, tried that when I did a couple of jobs in Hessle. Can't remember the ridiculous charge for a fixed IP though, although I do remember the 6 page application form I had to fill in for the ISDN2E lines that I wanted for the PBX, compared with BTs usual half a page! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-32999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb-eye Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Thats errm, not that easy here in Hull. Kingston Communications run Karoo. Karoo is our internet provider in Hull and the surrounding area. There is no alternative ISP except satillite. Even BT don't come to Hull. I've heard BT only charge £1 to swap a dynamic IP for a fixed one. Compare that to an £800 one off charge for fixed IP and £80 per month for connection with Karoo. You'll realise that my post did serve some validity. 32996[/snapback] Im referring to internal fixed IP on your network. not your ISP IP, We seem to be making a simple issue rather difficult, or are you suggesting that Karoo are changing your external IPs dynamically (don’t think so). Go to RUN type CMD or command on older commuters this will open a DOS box TYPE IPCONFIG this will show internal IP range on your network (internal IP they're normally 198. **.**.** or 10.**.**.** the last digit being the number of the machine) give the DVR a fixed IP within this range and hey presto we have a networked machine. Now to get it on the net, well that’s another story. I would remind everyone im not a Computer expert and apologise if i used the wrong terminology. Jef Customers! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/4318-dvr-and-broadband/page/2/#findComment-33030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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