davegreen Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 What pre- second fix tests should be done on a fire loop? If any Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Fire loop check....... I try and start at the panel end and check the loop as I fit devices. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky999 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 What pre- second fix tests should be done on a fire loop? If any Start by linking all the devices through and doing a continuity test. (don`t megga with any devices on LOL) Panel should soak test I usually have that on the wall powered up with no loops connected . Then start adding the loops one at a time. When your happy that the loops are clear add devices Peter Robinson Freelance M:07889038650 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegreen Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Start by linking all the devices through and doing a continuity test. (don`t megga with any devices on LOL)Panel should soak test I usually have that on the wall powered up with no loops connected . Then start adding the loops one at a time. When your happy that the loops are clear add devices So connect all the cores through back to the panel, when it sees no fault start 2nd fixing? Is it essential to record contiunuity/ resistance readinds on the loop? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G.J.M Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 What pre- second fix tests should be done on a fire loop? If any insulation tests earth loop impedance tests voltage drop loop resistance test to see if correct amount of cable has been used. continuity autolearn etc etc test all looop isolators test internal loop isolators open circuit loop in and full load test open circuit loop out and full load test test all loop devices. slightly more than "if any" Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g4vjc Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 So connect all the cores through back to the panel, when it sees no fault start 2nd fixing? Is it essential to record contiunuity/ resistance readinds on the loop? If you want to comply with BS5839 it is essential to record the following readings for all loops: 1. Insulation resistance L-N, L-E, N-E 2. Loop Continuity - L-L, N-N, E-E However this is easier said than done when you attend site to commission and the electrical contractor has already fitted all the devices!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 He should provide the reading along with his install cert.... securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g4vjc Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 ...if only!! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegreen Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 If you want to comply with BS5839 it is essential to record the following readings for all loops: 1. Insulation resistance L-N, L-E, N-E 2. Loop Continuity - L-L, N-N, E-E . Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G.J.M Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 If you want to comply with BS5839 it is essential to record the following readings for all loops:1. Insulation resistance L-N, L-E, N-E 2. Loop Continuity - L-L, N-N, E-E However this is easier said than done when you attend site to commission and the electrical contractor has already fitted all the devices!! it's up to the installing electrical contractor to do all the insulation tests and record them...in theory Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24184-pre-2nd-fix-tests/#findComment-205835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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