jquin Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 We moved into our house 18 months ago. It has a Scantronic 9100 which all seemed to be in working order and the PIRs etc seemed to be logically sited. The only problem is that we've never been able to omit zone 4 which has the PIR that covers the steps up to our bedroom so aren't putting the alarm on at night. I could enter the user code + OMIT + 4 + Enter. The enter made a 2-tone noise which I thought meant it had accepted the omit but the alarm always went off in the morning when we started walking down the stairs. So, I eventually decided today to do a complete reset. Reprogrammed it and it all seemed to be fine. The codes are all working fine and it operates correctly on the door sensors and all PIRs (i.e. basically the alarm goes off if they are tripped). I was especially careful to do "4 + 40 + Enter" to have zone 4 with Omit Allow Enabled. There's definitely only 1 PIR connected to zone 4 on the board. I've done a walk test and it is definitely number 4. But, when I set it and omit zone 4. Then walk past that the zone 4 PIR the alarm goes off. So I went back into engineer mode and made double sure by re-keying "4 + 40 + Enter" but it still goes off as soon as the PIR is tripped. Have I missed something? Am I being stupid? Is there something odd whereby it should be Omit Allow Disabled on that zone??? (I was surprised that Disabled was the default) Thanks in advance for any help. (p.s. I am planning to replace the Scantronic - just wanted to get it working for the next month until that's all done. If anyone can recommend someone around Stockwell, London that can help with the install I would be interested to hear. I'd really like to find someone who doesn't just add a 0 to the end of the price cause we're in London. I think it will just be a few hours work.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsnake Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 0 Is Not Omitable 1 Is Omitable 04E41E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Part Set rather than Omit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsnake Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 That what i'd do but thats alot more programming And he does say that hes swapping it soon anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpye Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 That what i'd do but thats alot more programming And he does say that hes swapping it soon anyway Yea, but why? The 9100 is an old but very good control panel, limited facilities I know, but if this is installed in a 'normal' house, why spend the money? A new system will hardly be any different. Have the alarm serviced, new battery at the very least, possibly a new outside sounder. Have a good night on the town with the wife with the money saved. Someone told me I was ignorant and apathetic, I don't know what that means, nor do I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJBsec Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 That what i'd do but thats alot more programming Imagine it was already programmed for part set when he moved in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jquin Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 Thanks - I will try 41 but my manual suggests 40 Omit Allow enabled 41 Omit Allow disabled My main reason for changing was that I wanted to give our cleaning lady her own code. The battery was changed in January last year and it has a very loud outside bell. If I wanted to try the part set option, do I just go through each zone then 61 with just zone 4 as 60? The instructions aren't very clear on that or what to do with 62, 64, 65, 66? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsnake Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 If I wanted to try the part set option, do I just go through each zone then 61 with just zone 4 as 60? Yes Basically 62 Zone E Final Exit Armed In Partset 1 ON 0 OFF 64 Timed Exit 1 Yes 0 Instant 65 Zone Programmed As Entry Route 1 Start Entry 0 Alarm 66 Full Alarm 1 External Sounder ON 0 External OFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black knight Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 0 Is Not Omitable1 Is Omitable 04E41E Your thinking og 9800 programming which i must admit so was i until i searched through my computer files to find a 9100 programming manual (considering that at one time in my career that was the only panel i used i was surprised i had forgotton!!). with regard to the omit problem jquin, assuming that you have programmed exactly as shown the only other bit of advice i can think of is make sure that you do the omit procedure immiediately after putting in your access code otherwise it won,t be accepted (within 3 secs i think) and assuming all your zones are closed a "O" (for zones ommitted ) will show in the screen prior to it setting/exit noise stopping. Also if you check the log it will show you the zone being ommitted. the part set option is the best way of doing the job tho - that way your zone 4 area is still protected when you set it at night. good luck Paul THE BLACK KNIGHT "Any comments / opinions posted are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Thanks - I will try 41 but my manual suggests 40 Omit Allow enabled 41 Omit Allow disabled My main reason for changing was that I wanted to give our cleaning lady her own code. The battery was changed in January last year and it has a very loud outside bell. If I wanted to try the part set option, do I just go through each zone then 61 with just zone 4 as 60? The instructions aren't very clear on that or what to do with 62, 64, 65, 66? as much as it goes against my principles (LOL) - do it like this zone number , enter , 4 , 1 , enter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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