Guest mikeyv1 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Ive got a Response electronics PA4(00), its worked fine so far and recently i realised there was a major security flaw in the fact that if the cable to the external siren is cut the external siren wont sound, but the control panel will recognise the tamper attempt and go into full alarm.Seing as the intenal sounder is only 60db it wouldnt wake anyone up.Could you tell me if there is anyway to make the ouitside siren have an indepenant siren activation with a battery just in case the cable is cut from the control panel. It is frightening how easily the external siren could be silenced so any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Ive got a Response electronics PA4(00), its worked fine so far and recently i realised there was a major security flaw in the fact that if the cable to the external siren is cut the external siren wont sound, but the control panel will recognise the tamper attempt and go into full alarm.Seing as the intenal sounder is only 60db it wouldnt wake anyone up.Could you tell me if there is anyway to make the ouitside siren have an indepenant siren activation with a battery just in case the cable is cut from the control panel. It is frightening how easily the external siren could be silenced so any help would be greatly appreciated. Are you sure? The "normal" design of external sounder has its own internal battery and if the wire is cut will detect the tamper and sound at full volume for as long as it's programmed to - usually 20 minutes max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeyv1 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Are you sure?The "normal" design of external sounder has its own internal battery and if the wire is cut will detect the tamper and sound at full volume for as long as it's programmed to - usually 20 minutes max. This alarm is quite old and doesnt have a battery in the external box , it does have a tamper circuit (white and green) to the control panel which initiated a full alarm however the output for the siren is just + and - and so only the tiny internal buzzer would sound.Is there any circuits that can be bought or made that would allow for an external siren to sound under its own pwer if it lost contact with the control panel(ie if it was cut) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 This alarm is quite old and doesnt have a battery in the external box , it does have a tamper circuit (white and green) to the control panel which initiated a full alarm however the output for the siren is just + and - and so only the tiny internal buzzer would sound.Is there any circuits that can be bought or made that would allow for an external siren to sound under its own pwer if it lost contact with the control panel(ie if it was cut) I think you'll have to wait until the Cup Final is over and one of the pro's who knows this panel comes online. Sounds like you'll need a new external sounder anyway. It can probably be wired up with a suitable selection of relays, but given the cost and complexity of that a new panel at the same time is the answer you're likely to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeyv1 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Thanks I'll wait until a pro comes on, p.s can u tell me anything about my panic alarm post, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Sounds like you'll need a new external sounder anyway. It can probably be wired up with a suitable selection of relays, but given the cost and complexity of that a new panel at the same time is the answer you're likely to get. That is what I would suggest, given that the Response stuff is pretty poor quality even for a DIY alarm and with respect to your other question on adding a PA button to the system, an upgrade seems even more welcome. You could go to the trouble of fitting a Ventcroft SAB module inside the existing bellbox, but this is not particularly easy if you don't know alot about alarms and how they work. A replacement 8 zone panel and bellbox of a decent quality would cost around Trade Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 I never really got into football Me neither, but the rest of the family are watching it and it's quite interesting :!: And of course you can only get the Test Match on bl***y Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjbsec Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 it's quite interesting :!: 3 all in extra time and "its quite interesting"? It's brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeyv1 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Could anyone recommend a system that as mentioned above is good quality , has full battery backup, panic alarm outputs and the abilty for a remot keypad any links or pics would be great.Currently ive got 3 PIR'S 2 Mag Sensors and would alos like the option to add a really loud internal siren, thanks for any assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Texecom Veritas. Google will find you loads no doubt, and there's a fair bit of info on this site re: users replacing **** alarms with a Veritas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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