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2 minutes ago, Logan said:
Yes nido but with this panel you need to remove the cover with mains connected to connect a usb lead to it when programming it
Hold on isn’t lead to program it??
the installation manual has a whole list of commands to enter for programming on the keypad no mention of usb lead
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15 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
Considering the mix up just with just your speaker, I would think twice about DIY.
Unless your willing to take the risk of many hours/weeks learning on the job and no guarantee of a working alarm at the end of it.
Words of caution if you do DIY:-
External bell strobe unit has very high voltage, this and having to disconnect a sounding box on the wall up a ladder is not the most pleasant experience when you have no idea what you are doing. Be careful.
Obviously the control box has mains voltage in best to isolate if your not good with electrics.
Thanks sixwheeledbeast but having just rewired most of my house and had it NIC inspected with no problems I am happy to take this my speaker issue earlier was from on my looking at the product from a picture and being of the belief that I had and internal sounder as well as an external one having followers yours and others advice that part of the system has been reinstated and working great
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6 minutes ago, PeterJames said:
NO!!!! diss the mains at the spur before opening the panel
Yeah or the panel/lid tamper kicks in
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So just to get this right
1 disconnect external sounder battery backup
2 default reset panel to reset engineer code
3 wire in new keypad
4 check system all working normal having reconnected external sounder
5 power back down and external sounder and swap pir’s
2 minutes ago, PeterJames said:II believe you are correct, I am not that familiar with Scanny anymore but I am sure someone posted here that the newer rkp's are compatible
From what I’ve read on security warehouse
it should work fine and I’ve read it on other forum’s
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1 minute ago, PeterJames said:
Before otherwise it will sound as soon as you power down. It will sound when you try to disconnect it but not for so long
Ok great
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1 minute ago, Logan said:
Newer scantronic keypads wont work. You can only 9651 keypads on a 9651
I have a 9930 pad on there now from what I understand the 9943 works well and comes highly recommended for the 9651 panel
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1 minute ago, PeterJames said:
The external sounder should start sounding on its own battery if you fully down power the panel. I say should that is what it is supposed to do.
So You really need to start at the external sounder, go outside and disconnect that first, otherwise you will upset your neighbors
Ok can I disconnect that before I power down or after
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1 minute ago, PeterJames said:
They must be busy round your way
So you can see why I’d like to diy it myself
am i right in thinking That if I default reset with the old pad I place still then replace keypad with new one I shouldn’t run into any problems swapping the pir’s after system is all set just with new keypad
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1 minute ago, PeterJames said:
How much is silly money?
500 just to come take a look
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1 minute ago, Logan said:
May i reccomend if you decide to replace the PIRs yourself you pull the fuse out the panel and disconnect the battery.
Cheers I was planning on doing it when the system was completely powered down anyway
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13 minutes ago, PeterJames said:
You're right a blank keypad is not nessacarily going to be a faulty keypad. With no way of shutting the alarm up if you make a wrong move, I am not sure that I would be wanting to DIY that.
I would get the engineer that normally serviced it but I can’t get hold of him anymore and none of my local company company’s will touch it without wanting silly money
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7 minutes ago, Logan said:
If you rip it out can i have it
I don’t think I’ll be ripping it out just getting someone in
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The keypad worked just fine up till about a week ago it used to tell me it had a tamper as it had been removed from the wall to allow for the plastering I was looking to upgrade it as the casing is old and cracked and the newer keypads are smaller
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Hi guys looking for some advice
I have a scantronic 9651 alarm with one main keypad, 5 pir detectors and smoke detectors
ive had it service yearly in the 10 years I’ve had it but recently had a lot of work in the house done plastering and decorating and my now the keypad just lights up no sound and no message on it just a blank screen and I’m looking to switch the pir to pet tolerant
I dint have the engineer code for the alarm so I’m guessing first thing to do would be reset the default codes then fit the new keypad and then the detectors anything I should expect or know about going from other bits on the forum each job seams fairly strait forward only thing worrying me I’d the keypad not working before the reset
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Al-yeti I know what others have said about simply swapping case and cut this and cut that but when you’ve just spent best part of £30 getting what you had been told before was the right part to get then your forgive me for being a bit reluctant to start cutting wires and swapping this for that
also new to this site and this topic should have been posted in the diy installer forum not in here
but thanks all for advice and assistance
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20 hours ago, al-yeti said:
You can disconnect the tamper aswell and use that on a tamper circuit
Either way you can't use that circuit board on the speaker output simple
Ok I think I need to return it am I right I’m needing to CQR soint1 I posted about earlier
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5 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
If you don't mind the terminal strip floating around yer.
So what your saying is snip all the black wires from the new speaker and the new tamper switch take out the circuit board and led and just use the connector bloc from old sounder
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1 hour ago, Andy cb said:
But how do I stop the case all the tamper switch is fitted to the circuit boar and in to the case don’t think I can get the tamper switch out without damage
Swap the case
11 minutes ago, al-yeti said:You can disconnect the tamper aswell and use that on a tamper circuit
Either way you can't use that circuit board on the speaker output simple
Ok I think I need to return it am I right I’m needing to CQR soint1 I posted about earlier
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I want to keep and use tamper
speaker is soldered into circuit board so would need to cut it out
to swap case over I think I would run risk of braking new case as I try to take out speaker, circuit board and LED
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19 minutes ago, Andy cb said:
But how do I stop the case all the tamper switch is fitted to the circuit boar and in to the case don’t think I can get the tamper switch out without damage
Swap the case
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Should I have ordered this instead
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But how do I stop the case all the tamper switch is fitted to the circuit boar and in to the case don’t think I can get the tamper switch out without damage
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I’m upgrading the pir detectors and putting in a new keypad at the same time and looking at the two sounders it’s not just a simple case swap I think the new one will work fine just want to know what terminals to wire in to on the new one
2 hours ago, PeterJames said:Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating
Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating
Please dont post multiple topics for the same question its irritating
Sorry new to site and didn’t really know where to go
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15 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:
You have a Soint loudspeaker and have purchased a Soint sounder.
It there a reason for replacing it?
Yes the original had a broken casing
Keypad and pir upgrade for scantronic 9651
in !!..DIY Installers..!!
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I’ve looked at that and all appear to be in place as they were