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Norman see below
On 11 Nov 2020, at 08:19, Ajax Systems <support@ajax.systems> wrote:Subject: UK grading of system
Comment: Hi Does your alarm system conform to the current UK intruder alarm standards and if so which grade is your alarm.
Also, can you confirm whether your system communicates with its detectors with one way or two way communication
As for the other two, im sorry I wasn't listen to you. what was your comment?
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None!
Are you a little special?
I don't do alarms, I was just asking as I saw these being banded around along with ring cameras.
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well there you go then, not sure what a GMX account is. Guessing google mail
I see a national (Abel Alarm Company) and a large regional (Wessex Group) are fitting it, so can't be that bad.
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They replied to my support ticket because it came from a limited company, I'm not so sure they would reply from an individual
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I didn't say I wasn't in the security industry just I wasn't in the alarm industry.
As previously stated im in the enterprise market, national infrastructure, blue light, public space. they don't use alarms, just inputs and outputs from the access systems
they also don't use the grading system as its not relevant, for the most part
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at last a adult comment, thank you James Wilson.
Norman, you seem confused the reference to the 5 - 7 response time is if you run their monitoring software and dispatch your own guards, guessing its a European thing, or at least eastern European
as for my English language friend, what are you on about! ive already said I don't fit this stuff, or in fact any alarms im not in that industry!
you comment about support holds true for Ajax as it does for galaxy, you have to be a company to get support. although Honeywell never check what you tell them!
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2 hours ago, al-yeti said:
It's avait all over internet and eBay
What you on about dude?
Diy
so by that definition texecom, visonic, pyronix and Galaxy is also diy!
just because you can get it on the internet on some shady site and Ebay, you could say that is the same thing, doesn't mean its diy or tat for that matter!
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Peter, out of interest why do you call it tat?
is it the plastics?
the interface?
or just the different why in which they see the industry?
the fact the keypad has no prox is a massive f/up in my mind.
you all say its for the diy market yet you can't buy it on the diy market, well not main stream like Screwfix etc
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who's the DIYer?
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Just received this from their tech support answering the grading and one way two way device comms stated above.
(I think?)
We've received your request. Thanks for your interest in Ajax Systems!
With release of OS Malevich 2.10, our system will be conformed to the most UK standards (PD6662). This version should be released soon. Currently, our systems has Grade 2 certification.
We can confirm that our system has two-way communication type.--
Best regards, Ajax team.
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Technical Support Department
Phone:
+38 (044) 538 13 10
+38 (066) 022 44 32
+38 (068) 597 36 07
support.ajax.systems
Email: support@ajax.systems
Telegram: @AjaxSystemsSupport_Bot
www.ajax.systems
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How is it none compliant tat? I thought it was grade 2?
The one way thing is a bit **** though.
I was talking about analytics such as davantis or ipsotec, facial recognition such as Hertz, Server based pro systems, although I grant you the Chinese tat does do a reasonable job if you're happy with a bot on your network.
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No thanks norm, I like it here
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Are you smoking crack?
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For true detection, video analytics would be my weapon of choice, although not for the faint hearted as the cost is prohibitive
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Cursed by a Apple Mac spell checker that thinks it knows best
Should read they are graded, grade 2 I believe
If your English is poor, maybe you shouldn't slate people, but that's what this forum is all about I guess. Not genuine discussion.
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Jesus, your English is awful!
And why would you think I don't know anything? I don't have much exposure on the lower end security market you seem to occupy but that doesn't mean I have no idea!
AJAX isn't cheap either, orison and texecom are cheaper and what you would consider a traditional system. What are the issues with AJAX, easy to slate something you've never assessed yourself!
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well they haven't set it up properly!
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ring recently updated their motion system and now you can set custom areas as you can on any cctv system and yes before you did get more alerts when it rained but now that's been resolved.
so what's everyones view on AJAX alarms? they are greed but still consumer 'ish!
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Oh, and thanks for all the negative ratings for asking a question on here and getting involved.
That's what I like about this forum, it's open, friendly, helpful and not at all a bullying environment you are judged in.
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12 minutes ago, al-yeti said:
I am not a pro
Ring cameras are not real CCTV , they are door bells and floodlights with a camera on them
Substitute is just cos they cheap and aimed at DIY market
You plan to start it as a ring installer hence you fit a door bell get your £60 and your done , I assume this is really y your asking
Not in the slightest, haven't got time. Too busy working on national infrastructure project and public space.
I was simply curious and that's all. I understand the it will be knocked off the wall etc but that's not the real reason for something like this, it's more for everyday awareness outside your home. Not security.
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1 minute ago, al-yeti said:
How does CCTV make you aware at the time it's happening , your going rely on push notifications lol
Come on be more serious
I said it helps with the investigation post break in! Meaning after the break in, it doesn't help with being alerted it's happening.
You arent the only pro here, I was asking for your thoughts on whether ring cameras could substitute full cctv for domestics which don't need full cctv
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If you're in to stopping the break in then surely you're all about steel doors, smoke cloaks and window bars, because alarms and cctv don't stop break ins they just make you aware it's happened and allow you to investigate post break in
I never said it wasn't consumer, just asked whether it had a role.
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A lot of hate for ring I see. Some of you say get an alarm first as cctv is useless because of burglars wearing mask, correct but the same burglars don't give a **** about alarms either.
Some of you miss the point, it's not all about stopping a break in but more knowing what is going on around you home.
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the ring picture is 1080p and the recordings are 30's long or more for motion. and there's no recording device to be stolen on site by would be invaders!
seems a better option in some respects to tradition cctv. granted you can be far more precise with tradition as ring is a one size fits none but ease of install and quality app goes a long way
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Ajax Alarms
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Hi
Anyone fitted an Ajax Alarm and if so are they any good?