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It may very well be sensitive information, but we don't have any such duty of care at this time, and if we did, it is or was already front page news on regular mainstream, non security specific sites. Again this is my own personal opinion and other members may disagree too.

We don't allow engineer defaulting info as a matter of principle, anyone with half a brain could find them elsewhere in seconds more's the pity, but there you go. So I don't think we need to be over protective on this subject, that's my personal opinion anyway.

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Yes as part of Caradon plc, they bought Chloride except the battery / vehicles bit afaik. Then Honeywell bought all the non building materials off Caradon, i think...

I saw an ADE ultimate RKP for the first time last year It was so big I assume it had just been left on the wall rather than make a mess removing, next to the working Gal keypad...

The guy wondered why he was getting 'tingling' in his hands when he touched the drainer when the dishwasher was on!

BUT it must still be compliant. So if the existing installation is unsafe, you can't add to it. A classic example is a house with rubber cabling still (very unlikely to see these days) but there were a few still around when Part P first came in and although we probably would have offered a rewire or walked anyway, with Part P you had to say 'no' even if it was just a spur etc... Another good example would be the one I found the other day with everything quite tidy but NO main earth!

There is no need to 'retrospectively' work to the 17th if, say, you are in a house done to the 15th, 16th etc... A case in point is fusewire type consumer units. The Electrical Safety Council (formerly part of NICEIC) are at pains to point out in a dedicated leaflet that this does NOT mean an installation fails a PITS / EICR just for having one.

As far as I understand from a 'justifiable' point of view, the HSE regard live working as acceptable only in the absence of any realistic alternative. So if you are live working on a fuseboard that is fitted with multiple means of safe isolation, but you don't want to use them 'to avoid pissing off the client' and work live, this would not sit well. For suppliers who have no alternative but to cut into live cables, then of course there isn't a practical alternative.

Depends - if you've had a few power cuts (or more likely, power turned off all day for building work etc...) then the battery will last nowhere near as long if completely discharged.

Unfortunately, paypal, ebay, do indeed refund the minute evidence of sending any type of tracked package is given. I have even had someone 'return' something using the entered royal mail code 'Fukoffebay'. They of course got a full instant refund, although I did eventually get it reversed after a LOT of shouting...

If you are going to commit fraud, always a good tip not to plan it out loud on a public forum, don't we think?

If you want to keep your neighbours as friends, I would call an out of hours pro now. The battery is faulty, almost certainly dead after all these years. If you find the main control box, and disable it, then it's possible the external siren will then start to sound for up to 20 minutes. Smashing it up, or disabling the keypad, will not help I'm afraid.

Inside every revolutionary is a policeman...

I had a funny dealing, on the 'M' also that 'lid tamper' inc case and modules was always an eng reset event? Whilst of course you could set zone tamper to user... Not sure if that's right but had a play with an M600 last week prior to scrapping.

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Always the sign of a rush job isn't it, bracketed PIRs sat in the middle of the ceiling. Used my 2nd one ever last month, moving an existing IR120.

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TBH they are already going for a fair few quid on ebay, can't see prices rising just yet

Farewell press release?

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Nope youre right, it's something they introduced on the last incarnations of the now discontinued 9751 9752 and 9853 EN models that's slightly pointlessly crept into the remaining 9651 model

There is no issue, although on a 9651 the only relevant bus checks it's doing are for keypads. A longish wait is normal, I upgraded a 9853 last week with a second keypad and xpander and that takes about the same time to get to 'exit engineer?'. Other than mains or battery, if there are faults it can see, it won't let you exit. The only specific bellbox fault this panel can detect is an open tamper.