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#1 tank_fv101

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:01 PM

Hello all,

I've been fortunate enough to get a Dedicated Micros Sprite 2 for my home, which has replaced my old system which recently broke. The Sprite 2 came with the KBS3A keyboard, which works perfectly, but I cannot get it to control the PTZ. Do I need to change some settings? Any help would be appreciated.

The camera itself is a cheap PTZ off of eBay. This is more or less the exact model (and showing the original joystick/keyboard). eBay Link for PTZ

And to add....I use RS485 for the PTZ camera.

Many thanks for your help,
Chris

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:11 PM

You need to make sure that the protocol of the dome is set to Pelco P and that the serial port is set to Pelco P as well in the DS2
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:05 PM

Thank you Pedders. Unfortunately for me that means getting the ladders out, and it's hammering down here. I'll leave it for tomorrow! :rolleyes: :)

The next thing I'll need to learn about is Baud Rates. The PTZ is currently on 2400, but it can be set to 4800 and 9600. Will this need adjusting? And again, what about on the DS2?

Thanks in advance,
Chris.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:25 PM

Set the baud rate of both dome and DS2 to 9600, you should be good to go then
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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:32 PM

Great, thanks once again. PTZ is not something I've played around with much.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 06:54 AM

The default board rate is 2400 and the protocol is PELCO-D.
As default the camera is set-up as Address no. 1.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:13 AM

Thanks Oxford. :)

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:57 PM

on the ds2,
menu : system options bottom option select pelco p
alarms and prsets (on the actual camera you want as a ptz control) select the Pelco - P option
Text and insertion setup top option port assignment use joystick and move to the right side to open the setup and a black box appears with the following options
Baud Rate : 9600
Data Bits : 8
Stop Bits : 1
Parity : Even
press menu mode to close that box.
and make sure it says Serial 3 or serial 4 (thats what mines set to on the green connector block at the back of the unit under BUS A (serial 3 and BUS B serial 4)
You must then go back out the menu system by pressing and holding menu button
then go back into the menu to reboot the system in the system shutdown.


On the dome the setup should be : Baud rate 9600 and Pelco P as the protocol.
your dome number should be the same as the input on the dvr, for example camera address 4 should go to camera input camera 4
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 09:03 PM

Thanks satsuma01. I hadn't seen your post and I spent over an hour trying to get the two to link together with no success. Then it poured with rain!!! :rolleyes:

I'll try what you've recommended tomorrow.

Thanks very much. :)

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 10:07 PM

View Postsatsuma01, on 13 June 2011 - 08:57 PM, said:

Text and insertion setup top option port assignment use joystick and move to the right side to open the setup and a black box appears with the following options
Baud Rate : 9600
Data Bits : 8
Stop Bits : 1
Parity : Even
press menu mode to close that box.
and make sure it says Serial 3 or serial 4 (thats what mines set to on the green connector block at the back of the unit under BUS A (serial 3 and BUS B serial 4)
You must then go back out the menu system by pressing and holding menu button
then go back into the menu to reboot the system in the system shutdown.


On the dome the setup should be : Baud rate 9600 and Pelco P as the protocol.
your dome number should be the same as the input on the dvr, for example camera address 4 should go to camera input camera 4

I didn't have the Text and Insertion menu come up on my DS2, and I couldn't find anywhere obvious to change the Baud Rate, Data Bits etc. Would that be after the Alarms and Presets? I have the older DS2, so maybe it's set up differently.

Thanks in advance.

Edited by tank_fv101, 18 June 2011 - 10:08 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2011 - 11:58 PM

on mine here, just looked and its after alarms and presets - then - activity camera setup - then - text insertion setup, but you need to be looking through your menus for something called port assignment.
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#12 tank_fv101

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 09:20 AM

View Postsatsuma01, on 18 June 2011 - 11:58 PM, said:

on mine here, just looked and its after alarms and presets - then - activity camera setup - then - text insertion setup, but you need to be looking through your menus for something called port assignment.

Activity Camera Setup is the last menu before it exits back to Live View on my unit. :no:

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 11:40 AM

View Posttank_fv101, on 19 June 2011 - 09:20 AM, said:

Activity Camera Setup is the last menu before it exits back to Live View on my unit. :no:
just looked at my dm sprite 2 manual (pdf file) and cant see anything saying about port numbers/setup have you checked the output on seriel ports on the back of the sprite, from the one waiting repair from a customers premises the one i have here on the back serial 1 and 2 is at the top of the mochine abo e the power connector, the connection for rs482 is pin1 and pin 9 i think its + pin1 and - pin9 but maybe other way round not sure. thats usually where the telelmtry on the serial network side of the dvr works, also make sure your camera address is setup the same as the camera number input on the dvr.

Edited by satsuma01, 19 June 2011 - 11:52 AM.

"If you carry your childhood with you, you never become old. Why rush to end life when happiness is in the blissfulness of childhood innocence."

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 05:28 PM

Hi Chris, just thought it see if i could help you,
the dome needs to be set to PELCO-P 9600 Baud,
In the DS2 (i assume you have an old rounded front ds2?) You need to enter the menu and under "system" you need to select "Pelco-P" The old ds2 only supports pel p 9600 :P and then you need to go to camera set up and under camera controll select pelco-p,
You need to ID the camera according to the bnc input you are using I.e BNC 1 = Camera1 :D
Hope this helps,
Best regards
Sam

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 08:36 PM

I've played with the same bits tonight and can confirm that with my DS2A DVTR 16Ch unit, the Serial line was connected to the RSTCA riser on the main board, pins 1 and 9 (1 Being +, 9 Being -). Set the DS2 to Samsung protocol and all seemed to work. My dome doesn't seem to operate right with Pelco-P, which I confirmed using a hand held tester, so need to try it on the later firmware revision DS2A 16Ch DVTX.
9600Baud, Samsung Protocol, Address1, Camera 1.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:36 PM

Apologies for the delay, and the bump. Thank you all so much for your replies. The PTZ completely failed in the end, and this weekend I managed to figure out how to get the American Dynamics Ultra 8 which was sitting in my shed to work (I tried for on and off for months, and finally figured out where I was going wrong)! What an amazing camera it is!!!!

Thanks again for those who helped. :)




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