andyhodson Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hi all Wonder if anyone knows this one. I've got a quote to do where the customer wants a phone dialler. Does the Scan 9751 have a dialler built in or am I misunderstanding the blurb? The guy who would know is off sick today and I'm sure we've done it before with this panel. Also, would this system generally be classed a Grade 1 under the new standards, ie no comms to ARC? Thanks Andy Manufacturer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hi allWonder if anyone knows this one. I've got a quote to do where the customer wants a phone dialler. Does the Scan 9751 have a dialler built in or am I misunderstanding the blurb? The guy who would know is off sick today and I'm sure we've done it before with this panel. Also, would this system generally be classed a Grade 1 under the new standards, ie no comms to ARC? Thanks Andy Don't know about Scantronic, but regarding the grading, the grade will be whatever you deem it to be for the risk. If you are having a non-signalling system then it should really be installed to Grade 2x in order to be insurance approved. Do any professional systems even have Grade 1 equipment? All devices on the system should be certified to Grade 2 IMO. Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhodson Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 Don't know about Scantronic, but regarding the grading, the grade will be whatever you deem it to be for the risk. If you are having a non-signalling system then it should really be installed to Grade 2x in order to be insurance approved. Do any professional systems even have Grade 1 equipment? All devices on the system should be certified to Grade 2 IMO. Thanks Zak, This is what I've quoted recently, (grade 2x) for simple domestic systems. These householders don't have any requirements as far as an insurance company is concerned, they want the alarm for their own purposes. Manufacturer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Thanks Zak,This is what I've quoted recently, (grade 2x) for simple domestic systems. These householders don't have any requirements as far as an insurance company is concerned, they want the alarm for their own purposes. What are you a manufacturer of if you don't mind me asking? Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhodson Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 What are you a manufacturer of if you don't mind me asking? We are electronics engineers and make our own products (fire suppression systems) and sub contract design and assembly for others such as Klaxon signals etc. We also make a digital shower waste pump, along with other bits and pieces. Manufacturer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Giles Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Use the onboard digi and transmit to your ARC You can then offer the customer Police response or keyholder only. Im guessing you are approved to fit these systems re Police? That would be the best solution for yuour client. Paul PG Security Systems Somerset SSAIB Certificate of Merit Installers. www.pgsecurity.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhodson Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 Use the onboard digi and transmit to your ARCYou can then offer the customer Police response or keyholder only. Im guessing you are approved to fit these systems re Police? That would be the best solution for yuour client. Paul Yes we are approved, although we don't do many monitored systems these days and will probably drop them altogether before very long. The point is, I can't get them to go with anything that involves and on-going cost, some people are just like that. Manufacturer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secboy Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Hi allWonder if anyone knows this one. I've got a quote to do where the customer wants a phone dialler. Does the Scan 9751 have a dialler built in or am I misunderstanding the blurb? The guy who would know is off sick today and I'm sure we've done it before with this panel. Also, would this system generally be classed a Grade 1 under the new standards, ie no comms to ARC? Thanks Andy Fairly sure the9751 does NOT have on board dialer so I would use the 9751 coz its a good solid tool and use a cooper / menvier security model 2 dialer which has "dial in and listen" facility/voice message and text to mobile just fitted one myself and good kit will take up to 10 No's ! dont forget to fit a filter if there is broadband on site!. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pkh911 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Scan 9751 has a built in Modem for ARC connection, If you want just to put a dialler on a scan then use a scan 9651 it has 8 outputs on a flying lead. Good Luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARJ Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Or, cheaper option is to use the new Gard-Tec CPX, which has onboard Digi & onboard dialler option. Trouble is, it only has limited pre-programmed speech in it, - you cant record your own messages Its Ok cost wise, but not brilliant technically, however, it will do the job for less money than a 9751 or 9651 plus a Dialler. ARJ A nearly retired previous installer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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