paulbaker1954 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hope someone can clear up my confusion in setting up 2 AREAS on my GArdtec System. I am setting up Areas on a Gardtec 595 using the LCD RKP. I have happily assigned area 1 or area 2 to each Zone (each zone is assigned to one area only) and also set up a User Area code for Area 2. Now the problem...... When setting the systen using the Area 2 user code the system shows a succesful set on Area 2 but when testing the alarm will only trigger from one zone (Zone 2) and not from any others. I have contacted RISCO support and they seem to think all is being set up correctly but............... TO add to my confusion I also tred changing that User to be an Area 1 user and when setting the system with this Area 1 code it always sets Areas 1 AND 2. Final question the last PIR (Hallway) is set as PART E/E and Bias rather than 12hr. IS there some reason (I cant think of one) it should be set as Bias rather than a normal 12hr zone. Dazed and Confused!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooly-bobs Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Program another user code as area 1. Presume 'User 1' is the master code which sets all areas. In effect you would have 3 user codes on the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 The zones should be, area 1, zone type as required eg 12hr or e/e or part ee. Area = A1 Tag should be Rem+ if allowed to omit OR Rem- if not allowed to omit. area 2, zone type as required eg 12hr or e/e or part ee. Area = A2 Tag should be Rem+ if allowed to omit OR Rem- if not allowed to omit. Codes should be Area 1 for area 1. Area 2 for area 2. Setup the E/E timers for Area1 and Area2. Setup bell delays and durations for both areas. Think of each parameter for each area. Dont forget user 1 master sets ALL areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mma Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Program a code as an area manager (a 3rd code that you won't use) make sure you have assigned the RKP to an area aswell. Should work fine then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbaker1954 Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Thanks for the replies but still havent resolved this curios and curiouser problem CURRENT SETUP IS AS FOLLOWS AREA 1 2 zones set to A1, 12hr, Rem+ AREA 2 16 Zones all set to A12 (?? Is this right can I set a zone to more than 1 area the panel seems to let you OK ??), 12 hr Rem + with the exception of 1 which is E/E Bell arms currently set to 0 (dont want to cheese off the neighbours. System full set currently set to Time Only System Part set for 1,2 and 3 also set to time only Using a Master Code sets Areas 1 and 2 (ie a full SET) and alarms are triggered ( I know cos I have vocom on and get alarm notifications)correctly when I test by walking in front of area PIR. I have also tested all PIRS and all seem to be functioning fine. Using a master code and then removing Area 1 or 2 (press Yes 1 or YEs 2, during setting) shows correctly a SET on the area but the alarm wont trigger however much I leap around in front of any PIRs I have also programmed in an AREA user code for Area 2 and again this correctly sets the area after the set time but again I cant get the alarm to trigger Basically it seems that whenever I set an indivisual area the alarm doesnt get triggered but a full set works hunky dory I am clearly missing something really obvious here but just can spot it Is there some parameter to set that will trigger alarms on each areas that I just cant find. Does the Bell delay parameter control how long it takes for an alarm or just the delay for when the bell sounds after an alarm (I always thought it was the latter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Thanks for the replies but still havent resolved this curios and curiouser problem CURRENT SETUP IS AS FOLLOWS AREA 1 2 zones set to A1, 12hr, Rem+ AREA 2 16 Zones all set to A12 (?? Is this right can I set a zone to more than 1 area the panel seems to let you OK ??), 12 hr Rem + with the exception of 1 which is E/E Bell arms currently set to 0 (dont want to cheese off the neighbours. System full set currently set to Time Only System Part set for 1,2 and 3 also set to time only Using a Master Code sets Areas 1 and 2 (ie a full SET) and alarms are triggered ( I know cos I have vocom on and get alarm notifications)correctly when I test by walking in front of area PIR. I have also tested all PIRS and all seem to be functioning fine. Using a master code and then removing Area 1 or 2 (press Yes 1 or YEs 2, during setting) shows correctly a SET on the area but the alarm wont trigger however much I leap around in front of any PIRs I have also programmed in an AREA user code for Area 2 and again this correctly sets the area after the set time but again I cant get the alarm to trigger Basically it seems that whenever I set an indivisual area the alarm doesnt get triggered but a full set works hunky dory I am clearly missing something really obvious here but just can spot it Is there some parameter to set that will trigger alarms on each areas that I just cant find. Does the Bell delay parameter control how long it takes for an alarm or just the delay for when the bell sounds after an alarm (I always thought it was the latter) AREA 2 zone need to be A2 only. Bell delay DELAYS the bell until the time has passed. EG 10min bell delay then the bells WILL NOT trip for 10 mins. Make sure the Bell delay AND Bell duration are correct for each area. I think you have them the wrong way. THEY MUST BE BELL DELAY = NIL. BELL DURATION = 15MIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbaker1954 Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thanks all for your help, turns out (not sure why) that the answer lay in the set up of the Zone attributes, various zones were set up as "sec", "per" including the lounge PIR that I was using to test for an alarm trip. Once I cleared out all these zone attributes all is functioning correctly It's always simple when you find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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