pjwallis Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hi Does any one know how to calculate the size of battery required for an intruder alarm system, which is in this case Grade 3 and there ore requires 24Hr back up as there is no mains failure transmitted to ARC. Many thanks Paul Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/comm...showtopic=23764 We use this application to do the calc, but if your not signalling ac fail (may i ask why) you will need 24 hours standby time. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/comm...showtopic=23764We use this application to do the calc, but if your not signalling ac fail (may i ask why) you will need 24 hours standby time. shouldn`t the battery disconnect too .............. 10V IIRC . Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 most panels now include some sort of battery saving but to be fair if a lead acid drops to 10v its usually scrap afterwards securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 most panels now include some sort of battery saving but to be fair if a lead acid drops to 10v its usually scrap afterwards nah I thought it was in the regs? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 in the control panel reg not the installer reg, and irrelevant for battery calcs securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 and irrelevant for battery calcs but if the O/P calculated the battery down to 6V? - relevant then Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 so you dont use the rated power marked on batteries then? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 so you dont use the rated power marked on batteries then? yesh but so do so many other industries that dont have such draconian regs do the maths - your counting the battery down to fully discharged so a 7AMP battery could supply 930ma for seven hours / 575ma for 12hours etc but the regs say it has to disconnect at 10V (IIRC) so your formula is flawed Roughly speaking if the cut off is 2/3 of the starting voltage then your 7AMP should only be used for 1/3 of the rated power - max 190ma supply? I dont know, I`m just repeating what others have told me - thats why its easier to signal mains loss IMO Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/24188-calculating-battery-required-for-grade-3-alarm/#findComment-205615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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