Guest anguscanplay Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 as improvements or innovations come on line, as i'm sure you do i advise my clients of the benefits - simple as, obviously confirmed signals with 1st knock key holder only, reduces the risk of Police blacklisting, so makes perfect sense to upgrade that systems signaling and so to keep the regular income for monitoring.regs alan right so there not actually your jobs then (because you cant "own" ones with police response) or someone else is been very naughty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectrician Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Our panel at work shows line fault and line restored at or around 1am every sunday night. Around 30 seconds between logs. Email : martin@askthetrades.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythebellbox Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 The downsides will come flooding in, is it En graded? De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da. De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 right so there not actually your jobs then (because you cant "own" ones with police response) or someone else is been very naughty NOPE! they are my jobs lock stock and barrel, you don't seem to know too much about the history or the current facts of alarm monitoring early days of trading, i did not to want be responsible for monitoring, simply because i know signals can and did get missed, so my clients used to pay direct to the CS (Central Stations in old school language - so ARC to you ). then it came about that was no longer allowed, so the clients had to pay through me as a then 'accredited' installer with the Police, the local POlice HQ CPO used to decide if you were accredited, basically you needed to be trading for 6 months . the met area (as yet) have not removed response from my 'legacy' systems, unlike all the other UK forces. if any of the jobs were to ever be blacklisted, then monitoring would not be restored and another company would have to take them over to reinstate it, so i keep them on the ball to prevent this and reduce any cost involved if they have to migrate. as much as i don't want the responsibility and so liability involved, none of these remaining monitored clients want to shift alarm companies, just a mad loyalty thing and i bet you have clients just like that too. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Our panel at work shows line fault and line restored at or around 1am every sunday night. Around 30 seconds between logs. get the line listed as an alarm line to have the automatic line testing stopped by BT exchange. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 none of these remaining monitored clients want to shift alarm companies, just a mad loyalty thing . regs alan there not the only mad ones, how do you sleep at night because its your nuts in the vice when it all goes pear shaped (however well covered you think you are) because your not upto date with DD etc sell em quick before you get caught out LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 there not the only mad ones, how do you sleep at night because its your nuts in the vice when it all goes pear shaped (however well covered you think you are) because your not upto date with DD etc sell em quick before you get caught out LOL i sleep very soundly - but thanks for asking matey. nothing to get caught out about, i'm not hiding anything or doing anything illegal or immoral. all the kit is high quality, and if i say so myself very well installed (well it would be - it was installed by me). all these systems are maintained as required 2 per year, with no 'remote in' maintenances, what ever the heck one of those is? as i'd like to see a cable thats become dislodged, a siren thats been foamed or a loose door contact be seen let alone fixed remotely - so about as much use a an 'emergency' spare tyre on a tank imho ) i personally visit and test and inspect every one of item, i don't just check the log, test the battery, detectors, sirens and signaling, they are treated as though they have had the false alarm record from hell (and i have very few false alarms), and only then do i invoice. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 i sleep very soundly - but thanks for asking matey.nothing to get caught out about, i'm not hiding anything or doing anything illegal or immoral. all the kit is high quality, and if i say so myself very well installed (well it would be - it was installed by me). all these systems are maintained as required 2 per year, with no 'remote in' maintenances, what ever the heck one of those is? as i'd like to see a cable thats become dislodged, a siren thats been foamed or a loose door contact be seen let alone fixed remotely - so about as much use a an 'emergency' spare tyre on a tank imho ) i personally visit and test and inspect every one of item, i don't just check the log, test the battery, detectors, sirens and signaling, they are treated as though they have had the false alarm record from hell (and i have very few false alarms), and only then do i invoice. regs alan but you dont do 24hr callout - you said so yourself question - any of these sites changed owners in the last few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 but you dont do 24hr callout - you said so yourselfquestion - any of these sites changed owners in the last few years? where did i ever say i don't offer 24 hour call out? you must read what i actually write, as ever long that might be i have said i don't charge for the facility of contacting me or someone acting for me who i pay to stand by for me. my ethos is this, the client has paid me to do the job for which i claim expertise, so will be trouble free in preference to doing it him/herself or engaging someone like a sparks or fireman on the side. now i see as if i can't manage to fit a system which is utterly reliable so (forfilling that trust) - then why should they pay me to be on standbye for my own mistakes? after all i choose the kit, i choose the locations, i choose the cioveridge so go figure is my stand point when i go on holiday my son who was trained by me covers as the 1st port of call, or if he has had a drink or unavailable for personal reasons, the NSI Gold Co will cover me as 'part and parcel' of getting my monitoring hand overs free of commission, keeps my clients covered and the NSI co honest. in all the time i have traded, (and you can beleive it or not), not one 'out of hours' site call has ever been needed to be made by the cover engineers, the systems are designed to be that robust - point blank i don't do false alarms for the reason of cover. i do get calls where building works take place, but i train my clients from the outset with a very grinding lesson of how things work and notice to be given - and i know you won't beleive me when i say i can be surprisingly grinding for such an interesting persona . end of the day, it's how you start your business and how you continue to apply yourself and your value's to it, an extra 10 mins of schooling the users, pays absolute dividends. (by the way i can be hired as a 'grinding advisor' for a very reasonable imo If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 nah - its wrong mate, the fact I cant put my finger on the exact reason is frustraiting (sic), your winging it. but its your business (and neck on the block) not mine so lets agree to leave it there regrds Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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