Guest G.J.M Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 don't know how the smilies appeared but i did not mean for them to be there G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G.J.M Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I Humbly Move aside and stand corrected not trying to be a smart ass Adam or show any one up .Just trying to blow the myth that going through an intruder digi complies. Redcare have cornered the Market but my biggest customer still insists on the intruder route as all his systems are L's so he see it as enhancing the system by signalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cerberus NI Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 don't know how the smilies appeared but i did not mean for them to be thereG You were just being a smug git - admit it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uski Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Err, so if I understand correctly, it is legal to have a unmonitored fire alarm system, and illegal to plug it to a transmitter ? I don't see the point of preventing users to add security !? Thanks uski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cerberus NI Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 not trying to be a smart ass Adam or show any one up .Just trying to blow the myth that going through an intruder digi complies.Redcare have cornered the Market but my biggest customer still insists on the intruder route as all his systems are L's so he see it as enhancing the system by signalling. Be gentle - I still don't see the direct correlation between the two,other than the cables between both must be fire rated and monitored for fault up to the termination within the signalling unit. I'll hold my hands up to better knowledge of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Err, so if I understand correctly, it is legal to have a unmonitored fire alarm system, and illegal to plug it to a transmitter ? That's about the same logic applied to most rules and regulations applicable in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteey Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Not wanting to put a spanner in the works, but last time i looked we werent in the habit of running fireproof phone cable to fire alarms, so whatever happens if the stu is housed in a bombproof box fed with a piro left in a blowtorch for half an hour, the line to that box will still be in bog standard poly cable. Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer  www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky999 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I was under the assumption that the cable had to be fire rated from the fire panel to a connection or relay box adjacent to the intruder panel. If the stu is directly into the fire panel it is not fire rated. Peter Robinson Freelance M:07889038650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Does that really have anything to do with it. No piece of a fire alarm apart from the cable is fire resistant and i thought thats why redcare was loved by the insurance cos if the line/panel/psu/stu gets melted it goes into no-response According to the B.T redcare(fire) account manager i spoke to about this you can use a redcare which IS connected to a intruder panel just as long the interconnecting cable is fire proof and the fire panel MUST signal fire fault via the ATE(stu) to the A.R.C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Not wanting to put a spanner in the works, but last time i looked we werent in the habit of running fireproof phone cable to fire alarms, so whatever happens if the stu is housed in a bombproof box fed with a piro left in a blowtorch for half an hour, the line to that box will still be in bog standard poly cable. one of the fire guy's had a topic about using FP cat5 from where the line enters the building..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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