November 10, 200619 yr comment_131243 Sorry m8, your playing in a large playground with no background knowledge. The problems your going to face will need several pages here. Already you have not passed the shunt switch stage, now you want more. Timers and switches are in the manual, or as you have said if you can run around in Eng 4....... then you can find the other options. I think your running before you can walk. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131243 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131255 I do have some knowledge, this is a system at home, so if I break it (I am sure I won't) it isn't the end of the world really - I previously installed a 9500 system here, with isolation/shunt LIM's in the garage and workshop, SD1 dialler etc. so I am capable, really! I do know about shunt switches, however I wanted to do it a different way, this would have suited my personal scenario perfectly, as I understand it a shunt lock can only be configured to set AND unset the system - is this correct? I would prefer to enter a code to unset, rather than the key doing it. The light sensor arrangement works fine - currently I have it controlling one of the LED's on a keypad, so I know it is doing what I want. I have also connected my doorbell up to the alarm, so if someone rings it, I get a chime in the workshop, this is extremely useful! I have all the manuals, and have spent quite a lot of time reading and playing with the various features - You have to start somewhere don't you! That's another ting, I have the PDF of all the manuals as well as the paper manuals, but the PDF version of the engineers manual seems to have the top few lines of every page cut off - is there a better one around? - I am quite happy to email it to someone to prove I already have it! Edited November 10, 200619 yr by Sparks Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131255 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131265 I do have some knowledge, this is a system at home, so if I break it (I am sure I won't) it isn't the end of the world really - I previously installed a 9500 system here, with isolation/shunt LIM's in the garage and workshop, SD1 dialler etc. so I am capable, really!I do know about shunt switches, however I wanted to do it a different way, this would have suited my personal scenario perfectly, as I understand it a shunt lock can only be configured to set AND unset the system - is this correct? I would prefer to enter a code to unset, rather than the key doing it. The light sensor arrangement works fine - currently I have it controlling one of the LED's on a keypad, so I know it is doing what I want. I have also connected my doorbell up to the alarm, so if someone rings it, I get a chime in the workshop, this is extremely useful! I have all the manuals, and have spent quite a lot of time reading and playing with the various features - You have to start somewhere don't you! That's another ting, I have the PDF of all the manuals as well as the paper manuals, but the PDF version seems to have the top few lines of every page cut off - is there a better one around? Okies, I see you can use a 9500, so you know some stuff. Shunt is set/unset Chime for door bell is easy. Having an LED or other status of your alarm isn't within current regulations Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131265 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131271 Shunt is set/unset Not strictly speaking! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131271 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131272 The LED isn't showing the status of the alarm, it is just taking to place of an exterior light for testing purposes - I only installed the light sensor today. As soon as I make up some relay modules and connect them to the relevant outside lights, I can turn this LED off (The LED is on my "test" keypad, sitting on my desk anyway!) Would it be against regulations for me to install a relay in my bell boxes to disable the tamper or siren when the system is in engineering mode? It would save the damn thing going off when I take it's cover off! Ta Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131272 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131275 Would it be against regulationsOnly if you are installing to regs, and no. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131275 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131277 Not strictly speaking! Would it be against regulations for me to install a relay in my bell boxes to disable the tamper or siren when the system is in engineering mode?It would save the damn thing going off when I take it's cover off! Shunt is set/unsetNot strictly speaking! Strictly speaking your right RJ,but we were chatting, not discussing regs. As for disabling strobes and other such like indicators, Dual answer there. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131277 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131280 Only if you are installing to regs, and no. Not sure I follow you here - was that a yes it is against the regs, or no it isnt? I am not currently installing the system to comply with the regs, I probably can't as I am not a professional alarm engineer, but I am trying to do things properly as much as I can. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131280 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131300 I do have some knowledge, this is a system at home, so if I break it (I am sure I won't) it isn't the end of the world really - I previously installed a 9500 system here, with isolation/shunt LIM's in the garage and workshop, SD1 dialler etc. so I am capable, really!I do know about shunt switches, however I wanted to do it a different way, this would have suited my personal scenario perfectly, as I understand it a shunt lock can only be configured to set AND unset the system - is this correct? I would prefer to enter a code to unset, rather than the key doing it. The light sensor arrangement works fine - currently I have it controlling one of the LED's on a keypad, so I know it is doing what I want. I have also connected my doorbell up to the alarm, so if someone rings it, I get a chime in the workshop, this is extremely useful! I have all the manuals, and have spent quite a lot of time reading and playing with the various features - You have to start somewhere don't you! That's another ting, I have the PDF of all the manuals as well as the paper manuals, but the PDF version of the engineers manual seems to have the top few lines of every page cut off - is there a better one around? - I am quite happy to email it to someone to prove I already have it! I dont like to rain on your parade or anything but a ts 2500 is a little different to a 9500 Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131300 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
November 10, 200619 yr comment_131306 Not really, it seems to just be an upgraded version of it! 9500 had lims - 2500 has XNodes - XNodes have 3 extra circuits too. It suited my existing wiring structure perfectly, especially the conservatory - this had two lims (in the corners nearest the house), then the various vibration sensors and contacts connected to them - the XNodes just drops in it's place nicely (Even if it is a little bigger!) I didn't even need to extend any wires. I also have garages at the end of the garden - this had an isolation/shunt lim - now it has an XNode and a kepad, effectively it is a separate alarm system, still controllable from the house which is great! I prefer the 2500, lots more things to play with Edited November 10, 200619 yr by Sparks Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/13501-menvier-ts2500-high-security-ward-option/page/2/#findComment-131306 Share on other sites Share on LinkedIn Share on X Share on Facebook {lang="reddit_text" Share via email Share on Pinterest More sharing options... Share this post
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