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There is a huge difference between buying cheap hardware and being smart by only paying for better aesthetics where they are needed. Good job on trying to be smart there though ?

On the odd occasion you lock the door where your keys are kept

If the addon panel was connected at setup time wouldn't the glaxy panel then consider it to be "part of the sensor" if you know what I mean, as the resistance would then change including the addon board?

Well at least everyone now knows where to go with the pry bar after entering ?

Hmm what does balanced circuits mean exactly? so you couldn't just wire a Konnected.io panel to the same zone terminals as a sensor?

But then if your keys are accessible when an intruder gets in they can disarm in a few seconds right? Just want to be clear on that's how it works Of course it would be stupid to leave them accessible but accidents happen and it seems like a huge issue to me. I guess everyone's homes, cars and lifestyle are different so who knows!

Well you are spot on especially with these extenders and such these days I don't leave my keys by the front door. However surely this depends on what is more valuable right to determine the risk. I also just don't see a huge convenience of placing a fob against the panel over typing in a code, unless I'm totally missing something here!

Well it looks alright, better than the MK7 ? I don't see the touchpanel warrants any extra money, looks quite cheap to me comparing it to devices like Nest stats etc. It will literally be used to arm/disarm because everything else can be done from the mobile app anyway And I'm not going for the Prox one because that just seems stupid to me from a security standpoint, like if you drop your keys, loose the fob, or leave your keys by the front door which my wife will prob do all the time!

mk7 is cheaper and will be in the server cupboard, whereas the mk8 looks nicer and will be in the hall . That's assuming you're wondering why i'm getting both. Yea I wasn't going to let AMCO touch anything in the house, even run cables. The agreement I made with them was to literally install their speaker setup and into the panel and then monitor it haha no! that's for all the points around the house, APs, CCTV (all PoE etc), TVs etc.

Yea this is why I didn't see a need for a bigger panel though, because I'm getting the wireless addon I can add contact to any windows that I missed. I agree more working space is nice, I'm used to bigger cables but I don't see any additional wires of boards going in here that I've not already got?

I thought the GSM module was for backup for dual path signalling is that not right? Can you expand on what is too small about the flex20? Im not using the door control and only have a 5 bed house so tbought it would be ok as it says for medium size businesses!

Gone for this kit: C005-M-E2 - Flex 20 Panel v3.1 Firmwar CP050-00-01 - MK8 Keypad CP037-XX - MK7 Keypad A083-00-01 - Ethernet Module v3 firmware A073-00-01 - RF Portal v3 firmware A081-00-01 - GSM module

Again I think the discussion around monitoring company went off topic too, I did some research but AMCO were the only ones who seemed interested in helping, and another firm in Knightsbridge I can't remember their name. If my insurance company is happy with them as a monitoring station I don't see the problem if their services work. Happy to hear feedback but everything online seems positive, more so than ADT. Also happy to hear other suggestions for South East monitoring.

I've already run all the cables, no issue there. No I don't want something cheap, I talked with AMCO because they offered the ability to add their equipment alongside one of these boards that I may add on. ADT, no thanks, the rep who came out was a complete *****, excuse my french.

Everything is already run, I've run all the sensors many months ago when we had a lot of work done, alone with probably 50 Cat6 I'm going with the Dimension or Flex, just deciding atm.

So after some more googling think I'm going to go for the Honeywell Flex series, seems a little less over the top than the Dimension for my use case, and also kits come with ethernet module so i can at least have some limited smart functionality until konnected's new panels come out

Sure I will check the wording again but I was quite clear as to what I was doing and as I say this is a specialist policy with many other security features in place that they are more bothered about. About AMCO, if you are saying you would never use them could you shed some more light on that? I've not signed up to anything but I was going to go with them because they talked to me on a lower installer level if you like, I said I would route cables and such for them (being a sparks would rather do this myself, I've seem cable routing by some alarm companies (no offence or generalisation meant!)). Whereas ADT and others just gave me the sales pitch and a ridiculous quotation. Yea this Konnected panel just piggybacks, and if I get all of these events to HA I can do lots of cool things, at least what I think is cool No idea what this means, I'm sure it's not helpful though If you're referring to my budget then you have no idea as I didn't even mention one! If anyone lives in the south east I would be happy taking personal advice/quote to the work on the panel, I've since retired from electrics and I've not even got round to fully finishing everything else I've wired in yet and in all honesty I just want this done so I can work on some cool scripts ---------------- Envisalink - They replies and said the best bet for UK market would be DSC 1864, DSC 1832, DSC 1616. These panels any good or should I just go with the mid-range Honeywells or HKC? I think I looked into the DSC some time ago and wanted to go with the newer panels, Neo? But I don't think they were supported so didn't go down that route

I also want to add this, because so many people have commented on hooking up these addon boards, and I don't see anything wrong with monitoring the board in such a way? https://help.konnected.io/support/solutions/articles/32000028384-wiring-a-interface-expansion With an Interface board (not a standalone setup I was going for), I can buy any dedicated UK panel and just monitor it with this. Then I can perform additional things that I want myself such as push notificaitons/emails, other actions on smart equipment in my home etc etc

I have it confirmed in writing and have an open policy with the insurers that allows for my suggested setup. The policy is specialist and the underwriters also. Not sure what this is about, I never said I would be having them walk in tomorrow? ? Who knows, i'm on the path to find out. These things are plug and play with the Vista range, I'll need to see if that's the case with the UK variants.

I appreciate the replies but again you are hung up on this homeassistant thing, I know I want this flexibility but addon boards can cater for this and I can contact the manufacturer to make sure any panel I look to buy will work with it. So that aside so far we are looking at Honeywell Accenta/Optima as the option for residential systems without being overkill, or HKC SW-10270?

I really don't get forums sometimes, I came here with good intentions and tried to write a clear OP which I thought included everything already. If there is something missing from it then maybe ask me a question to clarify? Ability to connect to Home Assistant, via Alarm Decoded or Envisalink boards External Keypads and Siren Ease of connection for central monitoring station such as AMCO (dual path for insurance) I would prefer the option to also add additional sensors that I missed off via RF as well, even panic buttons etc if that's possible. All sensors are currently wired back to central location, windows, doors, pirs etc Apart from numbers I thought I did this, seriously I did. To add to my OP it is for my house (i'm 99% sure everyone assumed this anyway but just to clarify), so therefore I don't need 1000 users, 5000 zones and 2000 door controls

The Honeywell Dimension seems like some serious overkill looking at it's specs, did you suggest this because of something specific I requested or? Maybe I should have asked this a different way, what is the equivalent of the Honeywell Vista 21IPLTE in the UK?

Hi all, Thanks for all of the replies, I think we've got bogged down in the insurance element, to be clear my insurer is fine with the Konnected.io panel I was waiting for with AMCO's live monitoring software/hardware connected as they specified. So all I was looking for here was a good panel for use in the UK that I can hook up with Home Assistant via Envisalink or another similar board. The system can still be armed etc from keypads so whatever additional information is passed to home assistant I don't see why that's a bad thing. I was going to use it to turn on all lights or other things when alarm is triggered for example. Few people have mentioned HKC, what panel specifically? Are there no recommended Honeywell panels? Lets get back to the hardware recommendations!

Hi all, So after waiting 6 months already for Konnected.io's new Pro v2 panel I've had enough and need to find another solution! After a lot of googling I found that Envisalink v4 with a Honeywell panel may be my best option as I use Home Assistant for all automatons and devices in the home and I've already bought a load of Honeywell DT8016AF5 Sensors. However, I was going to buy a Honeywell Vista 21IPLTE before I realised it seems like its a US panel (because it has a 120v transformer). I then stumbled upon this website and thought lets get some advice on the best panel to do the following: Ability to connect to Home Assistant, via Alarm Decoded or Envisalink boards External Keypads and Siren Ease of connection for central monitoring station such as AMCO (dual path for insurance) I would prefer the option to also add additional sensors that I missed off via RF as well, even panic buttons etc if that's possible. All sensors are currently wired back to central location, windows, doors, pirs etc Can't wait to finally get a good setup so all advice welcome! Maybe the Vista panel is ok with a different transformer as I think it handles all of my above points?