Joe Doherty
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You order them through your ARC Same price as a Digiair, You may be able to order via CSL for App connection Only not sure, Yeah only Supports Contact ID at the moment as far as i am aware, Or can just wire it via bell trigg input. This shows up as General Alarm
Yes comes with standard stick on antenna
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CSL Miniair is not bad little device for upgrading older panels & bells only jobs to app style system. Remote Arm/Disarm is useful.
Had a issue where i couldn't connect to the Installer App but CSL changed all the settings for me No Problem.
Can connect through Digimodem via Dialcapture (Contact ID Only) Set up your zones to display in the App, You can also connect via General Alarm Input (Bell Trigg) Both methods need a SET output going to SET on Miniair this shows device Armed Disarmed Status on the App.
The Keyswitch output only supports panels with a momentary keyswitch input, however most older panels require latching like with the Galaxy i got sent from Pillar to post but found the solution even CSL have adopted this now and ordered the relays to trial.
Anyone wanting to set up a miniair on a panel using a NC zone as a keyswitch, You are going to need a Bentley Toggle Relay model AT 223 & Two 10K resistor's,
1. Wire one leg of your resistor from 12v to input 1 then put the other leg from 12v to Input 2 ensure they are not touching
2. Then fit Jumpers links on J1 & J2
3. Connect orange OUT wire from miniair to IP1 on relay
4 Power Relay from AuxThis set up will work for dial capture or just using the general alarm
When the relay receives a negative applied pulse from miniair it goes open it then stays in that state until pulse is replied closing input thus setting and unsettling the alarm via the app
Hope you find this little review use full
Thanks, Joe
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yeah i will do no problem
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yeah its only got 7 zones used small domestic, you can only send restores on unset when using Fast Format, Emailed ARC to set up to abort on Cancel or Open, will see when they get back to me, Must say impressed with the Miniair, Only gripe is i couldn't log my device onto installer app, had to call CSL Tech to make the changes,
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Keyswitch on outside, switch on inside it's rented so they don't want to start altering much.
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Got a customer who has a electric shutter operated via rocker switch concerned if intruder gets in through roof as easy access. They can just open up from inside, could I isolate the inside switch through a relay on the Intruder Set Output, Where do you stand on trapping "intruder" inside seems a very grey area ?
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Hi Guys & Girls
Finally got Miniair set up after some trial and error, found a solution to the keyswitch as CSL did not know. I told CSL how I done it buy using Bentley Toggle Relay to a Keyswitch Zone. they went and placed order next day, I got a nice thank you from Bentleys.
Only issue now is I'm sending Contact ID to ARC however the ARC software is automatically handling the alarm as it's seeing the Zone Restoral. Is there away to stop the Zone Restoral ? I've looked manual high low can't find it, can only see mention for send restores after reset for Fast Format.
TIA, Joe
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Depends who kit belongs too i suppose.
Good question if the URN stays with the building. You would have to apply for a URN as takeover from other maint co. Makes u wonder if they give you new number or just delete history and start a fresh.
I assume its building specific as if you lost response whats stopping you switching
Mainteance co getting a new urn, appart from youre in a 12 month m&m contract
Nothing really to do with LA
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oh yeah.just a quick one i put the alarm co and number on banner display. I put the address uder site name in displays expectin it to display underneath but thats date & time where does the site name display then ?
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well starting full time soon with a new alarm co so not sure what wireless they use tbh
The guy i have been doing the odd jobs for seemed a bit gutted when i said cant help him out anymore. He likes me to do all the programming for some reason
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What can i say but wow, cracking little panel. Built in sounder is a beast
My First time programming one up not keen on the predictive text though. Also thought it was strange not programing fobs in engineers menu. But nothing to major. Stood scratching my head why the keyfob full set was only setting area B. Yes i programmed for intelligent set, only took me few minuites to realise.
Well easy to program zones, once you do a few jobs be a dodle , probably one of the easiest wireless panels ive used, they look proper smart aswell
Would actually put one in my house tbh
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If you have a read of the manual it states a Guard Access zone will start the part set entry timer when system is part set. I personally use entry/exit 2 attribute and never had a problem.
Thanks.simlec will remember that for future only ever done premier elites on commercial jobs so never had a need to use part sets or out. If it was my house i would put a keypad in bedroom but thats personal prefernce
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I thought guard access will cause full alarm condition if entry/exit timer has not.started. ie for a hallway pir. As the front door is not going.to be opened shouldnt it be programmed.as.timed.entry/exit zone
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I put up with a very low wage when i was apprentice. Do you have a full apprenticeship yet or willing to earn it? Can take 3 years but you can also be fast tracked or do other training courses to the equivalent of.
If they are going to train you and you come out with more feathers under your cap than you already have then why not? But its down to if your willing to be on less pay and want to be in the industry. Its not easy and some of the guys at my college would travel for hours to get there and be on the same low pay as me but we all knew it was worthwhile and make us like gold dust in the industry.
Dont know what i could really get out of apprentice route now, i went and did a course off my own back at college in 2013. I used to work perminent nights so used to go college 1 day a week for a year. It killed me some days plus i didnt drive then. Was with the lads from mono & nufire. i was the only lad that did not work for alarm company. Stuck it out learned a lot and got my 1853 out of it.
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What's your current job?
monitoring at the moment do the odd installs for differant firms when im free too.
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It's more the "few months and I'll be trained" bit id be more concerned about...
Think its more to learn the way they want the job doing. But i will admit there are somethings i dont know & somethings i do.
I have start of somewhere i suppose, long think over the long weekend for me
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Finding this on a service
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think F is first to alarm anything else would be marked with a 1 not 100% sure not set one up for ages, belw would look like zone 1 first to alarm zone 3 second. All other ccts secured, you can select to view as LED on a LCD Keypad in event log menu so would show up like this below. This only shows like this on LCD after alarm occred and before a user reset
12345678 TP
F0100000 00
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Ive Had a job offer starting off in a trainee position but gonna be 3500 year worse off. Only for a few months though till im trained & go on too full engineer pay. But it means less weekends and more sociable hours for me and its an open door to the industry that i have been wanting to get into full time. I just been doing odd days with differant companies when im off from my current job.
I know im the only person who can decide this
Just wondered on your thoughts
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Thanks rob. I always remember speaking to a director of alarm co who said to me engineers who know it all are the worst kind. We was chatting on phone as we where his out of hours service getting ppl ringin up for jobs. That has always stuck in my mind ever since.
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That looks like normal power up screen to me you have to enter user code engneers will not silence alarm.
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think the first fire panel im gonna get my hands on is a Morley Addressable. So im told.
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Well happy with myself at doing my first ever galaxy g3 system. Its a total different ball game than doing it on a board in college plus that was a flex.
Thought i had dropped a bollock with the engineer code, insufficiant access rights
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Sent you a PM James, didnt want to put monitoring prices on here as do not have access to the Trade Forum