antinode Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 How do they work? I know a little bit about them, but if anyone could elaborate a bit for me that'd be great. Thanks. Trade Member Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Each detector has an ID buscuit in it, and each contact has one too. Each ID buscuit has a number 1-30 and is identified by the panel continually scanning the ID loop for the ID buscuits number. The ID buscuit can be Off line- (TAMPER) or active or normal. Thats as much info I can give you in public. PM sent Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 Each detector has an ID buscuit in it, and each contact has one too.Each ID buscuit has a number 1-30 and is identified by the panel continually scanning the ID loop for the ID buscuits number. The ID buscuit can be Off line- (TAMPER) or active or normal. Thats as much info I can give you in public. PM sent 56746[/snapback] Thanks Dave. How the bloody hell do you get a biscuit in a contact? They don't look like they'd fit. Trade Member Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 6 way jb antinode or you used to be able to get addressable mc's in packs of 10 ie 1-10 address regards glen Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 warning if its an old ultimate ( ADE ) panel with over 30 zones zone 31 onwards will be in line 2 so zone or point 31 will have buscuit 1 in the same a zone 1 on line 1. the first time a came across this i spent ages trying to work out WTF was going on. So as a last resort i got the manual out LOL Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 only ever worked on the karizma / plus and wont allow more than 30 zones thank god bet it was a nightmare trying to sus out that old ultima bet your glad you had an eng manual lol Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antinode Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 Sounds like a nightmare Andy. How long before you admitted defeat and reached for the manual? Trade Member Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Teague Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 There is quite a long thread on this subject somewhere on the forum, but not sure if it's in the public section (may be in Trade Section). All I'd like to add is that we took one such system over & it kept on false alarming. It was only just over a year old & we eventually got it sorted (with a bit of help from a very nice forum member) by fitting capacitors at the end of the line. It was a known problem with the manufactorer, but they didn't advertise it too much. Some of these id biscuits work ok with different panels too. Not sure what the later type are like though, they may be better now, but we choose to steer clear of them. Regards Chris Chris Teague (Sales & Operations Manager) Sightguard Intruder Division Covering the Isle of Wight: - Design, Installation, Maintenance & Takeover of Intruder Alarms, Fire Alarms & Equipment, CCTV, Access Control, Nursecall. Keyholding Service, Guarding & Cash in Transit. SSAIB & NICEIC Registered Tel 01983 884000 / 884440 Any comments / opinions posted could be the voices in my head speaking, but they are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaseven Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 warning if its an old ultimate ( ADE ) panel with over 30 zones zone 31 onwards will be in line 2 so zone or point 31 will have buscuit 1 in the same a zone 1 on line 1. the first time a came across this i spent ages trying to work out WTF was going on. So as a last resort i got the manual out LOL 56768[/snapback] Try an old Castle Care-tech 2500 with 4 end-stations! Thats 120 zones, with 4 of each biscuit! We have a few out there, and it is a case of AAAAARGH!!!! when you get a twin-device or the like! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Teague Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Try an old Castle Care-tech 2500 with 4 end-stations! Thats 120 zones, with 4 of each biscuit! We have a few out there, and it is a case of AAAAARGH!!!! when you get a twin-device or the like! How about a Scanny 8136 with IDIS when a leg goes down at 3AM? EOL any time over ID Chris Teague (Sales & Operations Manager) Sightguard Intruder Division Covering the Isle of Wight: - Design, Installation, Maintenance & Takeover of Intruder Alarms, Fire Alarms & Equipment, CCTV, Access Control, Nursecall. Keyholding Service, Guarding & Cash in Transit. SSAIB & NICEIC Registered Tel 01983 884000 / 884440 Any comments / opinions posted could be the voices in my head speaking, but they are my opinion only and do not represent those of my employer or Company Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/6442-id-systems/#findComment-56847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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