Smokie Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Hi If there is any installer who need help with Smoke installation or integration, please let me know, I will help as much as possible. Smokie :moe_thumbs_up: Thanks for reading my posts, however insane they may be. Just remember, 'Success is Built on Commitment, Hard Work, saying F**K it once in a while and most of all LUCK'. Be Happy simon@sgssystems.com SGS Systems Web Site Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb-eye Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 If there is any installer who need help with Smoke installation Thanks for the offer. Q. how do you stop the fire brigade attending (please don't sugest heat detectors). Jef Customers! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokie Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 If there is any installer who need help with Smoke installation Thanks for the offer. Q. how do you stop the fire brigade attending (please don't sugest heat detectors).Jef 27396[/snapback] Hi Jef We always do a Fire Brigade notification so they are aware, to the main control centre and the local station if poss. Smokescreen has no Carbon Monoxide content so CO detectors can be used. If the intruder and fire systems are monitored, you can send a channel to the ARC and tell them not to brigade the site if they receive a channel 3 then a channel (smoke)then a channel 1 as this means the intruder has gone, then the smoke which has set off the fire. regards Smokie Thanks for reading my posts, however insane they may be. Just remember, 'Success is Built on Commitment, Hard Work, saying F**K it once in a while and most of all LUCK'. Be Happy simon@sgssystems.com SGS Systems Web Site Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 HiIf there is any installer who need help with Smoke installation or integration, please let me know, I will help as much as possible. Smokie :moe_thumbs_up: 27236[/snapback] What system do you use? Who is the manufacturer? Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb-eye Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 If there is any installer who need help with Smoke installation Thanks for the offer. Q. how do you stop the fire brigade attending (please don't sugest heat detectors).Jef 27396[/snapback] Hi Jef We always do a Fire Brigade notification so they are aware, to the main control centre and the local station if poss. Smokescreen has no Carbon Monoxide content so CO detectors can be used. If the intruder and fire systems are monitored, you can send a channel to the ARC and tell them not to brigade the site if they receive a channel 3 then a channel (smoke)then a channel 1 as this means the intruder has gone, then the smoke which has set off the fire. regards Smokie 27400[/snapback] Good old common sense thanks jef Customers! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsd Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 If the intruder and fire systems are monitored, you can send a channel to the ARC and tell them not to brigade the site if they receive a channel 3 then a channel (smoke)then a channel 1 as this means the intruder has gone, then the smoke which has set off the fire. Any insurance problems ie. actual fire? Many times when called to an activated smoke system the fire brigade will come from reports from passers by. It would be possible to isolate the fire signal by using chan3 to short out chan1 through a relay. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 If the intruder and fire systems are monitored, you can send a channel to the ARC and tell them not to brigade the site if they receive a channel 3 then a channel (smoke)then a channel 1 as this means the intruder has gone, then the smoke which has set off the fire.Any insurance problems ie. actual fire? Many times when called to an activated smoke system the fire brigade will come from reports from passers by. It would be possible to isolate the fire signal by using chan3 to short out chan1 through a relay. 27540[/snapback] Isolating fire channel sounds like an insurance problem for me.. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsd Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Reccomend a separate detector to activate the smoke, as well as an intruder signal. This is more important where the smoke is in one room ,ie server room ect. As for insurance/liability, I know of a smokecloak connected to a PA button in a shop? I would not like to be in there if it went off, especcially with some looney and his gun! Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Reccomend a separate detector to activate the smoke, as well as an intrudersignal. This is more important where the smoke is in one room ,ie server room ect. As for insurance/liability, I know of a smokecloak connected to a PA button in a shop? I would not like to be in there if it went off, especcially with some looney and his gun! 27549[/snapback] Wouldn't mind to be there even without smoke.. Link to comment https://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/community/topic/3896-do-you-need-help-installing-smoke/#findComment-27550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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