[Scantronic recommendation]

25 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

Yeah I'd say the Scantronic (Eaton) i-On 40H is a good G2 professional panel that should not totally flummox a competent DIYer.

The free cloud monitoring is a nice bonus, there are currently no monthly fees and it has been suggested if they ever

come in, it will be for new signups not existing free customers.

 

I agree above about detection, now that Siemens IR range and now Vanderbilt e-Line have gone I've gone back to Optex and they seem as good as remembered (a long time ago TBF) - so far!

That said I have tried a few of the own brand Eaton detectors and whilst no FAs I've been a little 'alarmed' at how much motion is needed to make the wired pet ones activate.

 

Flush keypads are available for the ion and they are expensive but look quite nice.

Many thanks guys for the advice!

 

I was looking at the ion40H actually even though it don’t need so many zones but I think it looks like a decent bit of kit, the keypad doesn’t look too bad either.

 

Could you suggest any particular Wireless window sensor to go for?

 

I think the Optex looks like a good choice for PIR.

 

Also any alternative suggestions for cameras/NVR, was looking at the QVIS viper 5mp.

 

Many thanks!!!

30 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

Yeah I'd say the Scantronic (Eaton) i-On 40H is a good G2 professional panel that should not totally flummox a competent DIYer.

The free cloud monitoring is a nice bonus, there are currently no monthly fees and it has been suggested if they ever

come in, it will be for new signups not existing free customers.

 

I agree above about detection, now that Siemens IR range and now Vanderbilt e-Line have gone I've gone back to Optex and they seem as good as remembered (a long time ago TBF) - so far!

That said I have tried a few of the own brand Eaton detectors and whilst no FAs I've been a little 'alarmed' at how much motion is needed to make the wired pet ones activate.

 

Flush keypads are available for the ion and they are expensive but look quite nice.

Many thanks, the Optex looks like a good choice, any specific suggestions for the wireless window sensors?

 

Cheers

[Scantronic recommendation]

Hi all, hoping for some recommendation on which Scantronic parts I should go for.

 

I’m currently in the process of renovating a 1 bed flat and whilst I have floors open and walls not yet plastered.

 

I want to lay cables for an alarm system, I think I would like to have a hybrid wired system so I have the the options to add additional wireless sensors at a later stage if required, Scantronic has been recommended, I will also be adding a couple of external poe cameras, QVIS viper have also been recommended but open to any suggestions, might also look at adding a Konncected panel later if there is benefit.

 

So I would really appreciate if someone could advise on what Scantronic alarm I should go for, I think I just need 3motion sensors, for the living room, bedroom and hall, then maybe some window sensors, not sure if wired/wireless are best.

I would like the control panel to be quite modern looking also.

 

Many thanks in advance!!!

 

[Rocks1001]

21 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

id say the lightwave option is cheap its a 1 way tech that is horrible to keep reliable. But are you looking at £15 and a plug in device or are you looking to do it properly?

Well I don’t really like proprietary protocol it uses also, but I think spending £60 a socket that looks rather bland isn’t great value, others may disagree I think something around the £30 is reasonable if it’s looks modern.

[Rocks1001]

18 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

unfortunately your only choice in prosumer world is texecom with their sockets

however this might be your issue

what is too expensive?

Lightwave option is expensive, just want to find a smart dimmer with matching smart sockets, can’t seem to find a company that does both

[Rocks1001]

11 hours ago, PeterJames said:

I imported the light switch's from China I used to buy a lot of CCTV directly I buy very little now. There are a few different ones on ebay, but most dont do two way for hall and landing where you need to switch either light from upstairs or downstairs for example. The ones I imported  have a wireless switch that looks the same as the normal switches, so rooms that have two light switch's have a wireless one at one end.  

Mine are similar to the Sonoff switches https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sonoff-T3-EU-1Gang-Smart-WiFi-Wireless-Touch-Switch-Wall-Light-Remote/293588175534?hash=item445b380aae:m:mKb5butd_BuZhQ7hDIl-K6Q

Yeh I looked at a few switches from China but still can’t find any ones with dimmer functionality in the actually switch, only Lightwave seem to have that functionality but don’t want to go down route, too expensive, also ideally want switches to match sockets but there is even less choice regarding smart sockets  

[Rocks1001]

10 hours ago, PeterJames said:

I wouldnt use wireless for security if it can be wired, especially CCTV. If you run Cat 5 to your camera positions you can either POE them (better but more expensive) or if your on a budget you can use AHD cameras with Baluns. I would also advise running cables for the intruder and a couple of cat 5 to the TV point that way you can use HDMI over cat5 to the tv from the recorder. All my light switch's are 433  similar to the Lightwave ones (I used to have lightwave ones but having a button for on and a button for off was too complicated for my keyholder) I have outputs on my alarm hard wired to 433 transmitters, same with the CCTV, and I have a 433 receiver wired to a zone programed as keyswitch for arm only, so I can get alexa to arm the alarm, but she cant switch it off.

Hey, many thanks for the detailed reply, yes my instinct was to go with POE cameras, I heard Viper Qvis are decent 5mp, I’m only need 2 so I assume 4channel nvr will suffice.

Can I ask which Brand light switches you use? And also do have smart sockets?

 

I’m struggling to find nice looking smart dimmer switches, looked at adding the Sonoff mini’s but they don’t work with dimmers, can’t see anything apart from the Lightwave but they are expensive and also a rather bland aesthetically.

For sockets I’ve seen these BG electric but again only come in white...

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/BG922HC.html?source=adwords&ad_position=&ad_id=415703895087&placement=&kw=&network=u&matchtype=&ad_type=&product_id=BG922HC&product_partition_id=889135910870&campaign=shopping_switches_sockets&version=finalurl_v3&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlN32BRCCARIsADZ-J4uX1Sc4bx0lZdQdtOh5oStXHhgGvGS4j4QsMC8P9YHBUagftElHv7kaAu4QEALw_wcB

 

The Hubitat hub looks interesting, never heard of it but looks good, will check it out

[Rocks1001]

2 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Wired is the way to go if refurbing and wireless has its uses in many devices as everyone sees

Yeh that is my preference, less need to worry about batteries and dodgy wifi, I think the Samsung hub option looks like a good starting point and potentially fairly future proof but that more for the automation side of things than security 

[Rocks1001]

1 hour ago, PeterJames said:

There are several alarm companies that offer automation and security. It all depends on your budget really. Many alarm manufacturers are playing catchup, but they do have to jump through several more hops than the DIY market. Many like Risco and Pyronix try to market to both trade and DIY and to some degrees they do hit that market. Personally I have a separate home automation system to my security, but I have some integration. The intruder controls my house lights, my CCTV controls my external lights, my home automation can arm the alarm but it cannot disarm the alarm. Anything that can be hacked should not be able to disarm your alarm.     

That’s good advice about the hacking, can I ask from your experience do you see much benefit of wired cctv opposed to wireless, I’m trying to make sure I lay any cables at this point to try and future proof myself before the floor and walls get finished

[Rocks1001]

1 hour ago, al-yeti said:

Forget loxone lol I was on a windup 

 

But there's allot of DIY home control stuff out there 

 

 

Ha ha, yeh it does seem rather high end for a 1bed flat but still interesting

[Rocks1001]

8 minutes ago, Logan said:

Risco prosys is rubbish 

 

And simplisafe is even worse.  With 1000s of security issues

 

I would reccomend a ion40h or pyronix enforcer v10

 

Many thanks for this, the Scantronic seems to be a little bit more modern than Pyronix but both looks like good systems, although I may not have budget to do the full install right now I'm just trying to plan ahead of where to run cables etc..., I'm guessing its best to have some parts wired such as maybe the CCTV at least and maybe leave the motion sensors wireless, assuming there isn't much difference.

[Rocks1001]

6 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Alarms both troublesome 

Specialist you got good budget try loxone 

 Thanks, I think Loxone could be a bit overkill for my flat as it seems quite a high-end system but will look into anyhow!

[Rocks1001]

Hi all, I would just like to ask your advice please on which might be the best alarm solution to go for.

I'm currently renovating my 1 bed flat and want to install an alarm system with cctv (probably 2 external cameras), seeing as i have all the floor open and still yet to plaster the walls I'm thinking it might best to go for a wired system so it saves on batteries running out and I think would be just that slightly more reliable. 

 

I would also like to have some home automation at some point like remote sockets and light switches, video intercom, although I think other specialist solutions are best for that side of things, Samsung's smart things  and Lightwave for switches/sockets, not aware any other firm offering smart sockets and dimmable switches as a single solution.

 

I would really appreciate your advice on this, especially the alarm options to go for, I've read that RiscoSys2 is potentially a good hybrid option or maybe just go fully wireless with SimpliSafe or similar.

 

Many thanks in advance!!!