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On 13/04/2020 at 17:22, MrHappy said:

stb on the alarm panel is 0v applied when the alarm tell the strobe to flash

 

green in stb

white in b+

 

 

I finally got the fuses and tried the above - All working. Thanks all for all your help! 

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Which way should it be? 

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I replaced the panel and added 2 new PIR's, The external sounder / strobe is the same. I will try that, however i need to buy more fuses (this will be interesting at the moment!) 

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I cannot get access to the bell at the moment, however i have not changed the connections there, I labelled where it was wired into the original panel. (note i need to reduce the exposed wires in the picture) 

 

B+: Red

B- : Black 

BA : yellow

STB- : Green 

STB+: White

BT: Blue 

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Is there any other way yo wire up the external sounder, as when the alarm sets it blows the fuse and also sets the SAB tamper fault on the reader

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Can someone please clarify how to rewire the external sounder from the paragon to the Pyronix, i have attached the diagrams. I am assuming that 

Old Paragon [B+] & [B-] to Pyronix [B+] to [B-] respectively (easy ones) 

Old paragon [BA]  to Pyronix [Bell] 

Old paragon [BT]  to Pyronix [TR]

Old paragon [STB+]  to Pyronix [STB]  

Old paragon [-STB]  to Pyronix [B-]  

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I am looking to upgrade to Euro 46, reviewed all the instructions. However before i start tampering with the old setup. what is the best way to remove old panel without triggering the external siren. I do not have the engineers code and one of the external sirens is difficult to access at this moment

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56 minutes ago, Logan said:

Ventcroft primia 2  yes it is compatible but i recommend you replace it as its 20+ years old but its up to you if it still works 

Heres a suitable Replacement

 

You can download the home control app without needing to be a engineer 

Thanks Logan, yep was going to replace, just waiting for summer to change.

 

Can you resend the link for a suitable replacement. 

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On 11/02/2020 at 19:43, Logan said:

Yes the 46 includes the install, programming and user guide 

 

Your bell box should be compatable  (you can attach a picture if you want so i can verify that it is compatable)

 

I believe the recall was for communication to ARC (alarm receiving centre)

 

Hi Logan 

 

I have attached the bell box picture, I want to use this to start, with the aim of replacing it later in the year. 

 

1 other question, do you need to be an installer to use the home control app on Pyronix? 

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10 minutes ago, Logan said:

Yes the 46 includes the install, programming and user guide 

 

Your bell box should be compatable  (you can attach a picture if you want so i can verify that it is compatable)

 

I believe the recall was for communication to ARC (alarm receiving centre)

 

Thanks for the info, I will get a picture tomorrow. 

 

I assume the recall was just a firmware update in the end?

 

Do you believe the PIR's should be OK? 

 

 

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Does any one know if there should be any issues with using the paragon wiring and external siren with the Pyronix Euro 46 (Note i do not want to use EOL for ease of fitting) . And when you purchase the Pyronix does it come with full instructions as there are limited downloads on the internet 

1 minute ago, Guest said:

Does any one know if there should be any issues with using the paragon wiring and external siren with the Pyronix Euro 46 (Note i do not want to use EOL for ease of fitting) . And when you purchase the Pyronix does it come with full instructions as there are limited downloads on the internet 

I want to use the same PIR's as well. 

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8 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

If you go Texecom then use a Premier 24 Poly not an Excel

Thanks, i will look into this one. 

5 minutes ago, Logan said:

Do you use the remote keypad the most or the panel keypad the most

We will be using the keypad the most as the panel is hidden

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7 hours ago, Logan said:

Is the keypad on the panel or is it a remote keypad version 

It has the keypad on the panel and there is a remote key pad

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57 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

 

 

57 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

 

Mr Happy,  i assume the Euro 46 is more advanced? however can the Euro 46 be DIY

installed  

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True! just wondering if other sites selling them have had a recall and are selling them with updated software

 

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Model - EURO46/S-UK-V10 

Security warehouse website 

https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/security-control-panels-c-36_102/110-input-zone-small-c-36_102_101/pyronix-hyprid-euro-46-v10-panel-p-5449.html 

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I am looking to replace a Paragon plus alarm with a newer model, currently looking at the Pyronix Euro 46, or Texecom Veritas excel

 

In regards to the Pyronix, is this simple enough to do for DIY installer as there are limited instructions online, can you still use the home control app? or do you need to be a registered installer? On one of the sites there is a product recall, (*currently stock delays due to a software issue recall), therefore should you steer clear from these