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Hi All, Thanks for the replies so far. The application is for simply detecting movement in a room/area. I don't require any time adjustment. All I need it to do is to have a signal (NC/NO) on detection of said movement. I will have an external control system in place to handle everything else after the event.

Seems a bit dead in here but I'll give this a shot. I'm looking for a small in-ceiling (not ceiling mounted) movement sensor. I don't want one that operates off high voltage e.g. ones that operate lights. Ideally it would be an alarm type sensor but as long as it operates off 12V and can trigger an output (dry contact) then I'm happy. I've been looking quite hard for some and almost any that come are either massive, ugly or cost an absolute bomb. Does anyone have any ideas? It doesn't have to be super fancy, I just want it to be able to detect basic movement. Some examples I've found are: CP Electronics (~£65) Danlers (~£50) BEG Luxomat (~£65) I've yet to come across any alarm company inceiling sensors - they all seem to be surface mounted but they are all considerably cheaper (e.g. Texecom AM360 QD ~£30). Is there any reason for this? Many thanks in advance.