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So would us the installer be able to put more on the job to keep our relationship with the consultants happy, just slide that brown paper bag in my pocket :whistle:

I know this goes on, but my comapny will never buy work in in this manner, one of my friends works for a national and they have corporate boxes for the so called entertaining, golf days and the good old bottles at christmas, and this is a security company who is supposed to be honest / striaght and above board.

theres nothing dishonest/bent/or below board about entertaining customers past,present or future..at the match/golf or anywhere else..

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If you look back at my replies you will see that I realised what zippycat was explaining,"he designs the intruder according to what he feels is required to be able to give a BUDGETARY costing to the customer,when a sevice supplier is then asked to carry out the work they would do so in complience to EN regs" If that incured extra costs above the consultants budgetary figure the service provider would explain the reasons and if the customer did not agree he would then be obliged to sign a waiver! If we are being realistic it would not be surprising that a major national company commisioning large security installations would feel agrieved to be "told" to install more than he wanted(it would be his decision if he would not be insured because of it) and untill the day comes where he has no choice he will not allow the tail to wag the dog!!!!!!.

Paul.

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