Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Hello, I'd really value anyone's experience. I'm used to using and installing Texecom products - and have found them excellent. I have a new job where an alarm in required for a detached garage and also a separate shed. My immediate thought was to install a premier Elite with the part set function configured so the shed could be alarmed with the garage unarmed. The only drawback is that the controls would ideally be in the house, which would then require a wireless keypad (it's a detached garage). Adding a wireless keypad to a Texecom means buying the whole ricochet setup, which seems a bit much given everything else would be wired... (although I could use Smartcom and an app and just stick the keypad in the garage) which got me thinking, is wireless the way to do it anyway? The shed is about 30M from the garage, which I believe should be in the range of most systems. Then I wondered about Hikvision's AX Pro alarms - I install their CCTV but have no experience with the alarms. Are they any good compared to the Texecom? Can they be set to part-arm so that the shed could be armed but the garage unarmed without adding a second system? The client also has Hikvision CCTV and is looking at the gate entry system too, so it could all be controlled from a single panel, which would be neat and cameras could be added to the AX Pro but I'm just not sure if it's as good as the Texe? Any opinions much appreciated, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 If the keypad is wireless for these outbuildings then some detection would be wireless? therefore I don't see how you are not getting wireless "just for a keypad". From what a can gather I wouldn't be programming part arms alone on this system I would be using local areas. All depends how the user wants to use the system for programming. I avoid Hikvision anything, so can't comment on your other query. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, sixwheeledbeast said: If the keypad is wireless for these outbuildings then some detection would be wireless? therefore I don't see how you are not getting wireless "just for a keypad". From what a can gather I wouldn't be programming part arms alone on this system I would be using local areas. All depends how the user wants to use the system for programming. I avoid Hikvision anything, so can't comment on your other query. Thanks Six. I have no experience with wireless My plan was to hard wire PIR/bell etc. in the garage, then duct cables to the shed to hardwire PIR etc. there. The issue is that ideally the customer doesn't want to arm/disarm in the garage because it's inconvenient accessing a keypad past cars/gear etc. As you say, I could go wireless all round and use Ricochet for PIR's - is that any good? How often to batteries die? Local areas also good - thanks! Alternatively, I could just go all wired and use Smartcom for remote arm/disarm... Cheers. P.S Why avoid Hikvision - just the obvs. concerns over data privacy and China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 I guess I could also use an expander for the existing premier elite in the house but I think that’s complicated because there will be a significant proportion of the time the shed will need to be armed whilst the house and garage aren’t and also some time when the garage and house won’t but the shed will… seems simpler to have a dedicated system for shed and garage with areas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 assuming both out building have power, 2 self contained systems.... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 That's why I say Areas would need 48 for 3 areas, or 24 with 2. Only issue with self contained is outbuildings won't have app like you mentioned, unless you can get wifi over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: That's why I say Areas would need 48 for 3 areas, or 24 with 2. Only issue with self contained is outbuildings won't have app like you mentioned, unless you can get wifi over there. Yeah, OK - got it, thanks. Could swap main house for a 48 (currently a 24) to do 3 areas, or install new 24 in garage. TBH garage and shed have Ethernet, so connectivity no issue but two systems may seem a bit overkill - especially if app control is required. Not a bad shout though either… hmm 1 hour ago, MrHappy said: assuming both out building have power, 2 self contained systems.... Thanks - that’s not a bad idea either, if dearer… all buildings have power and Ethernet. Alarm cables will also be run from garage to shed… thinking maybe a new 24 system in garage hardwired with smartcom and 2 areas may be best compromise. interesting no one rates Hikvision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 P.S if I use a 2 area system in the garage, that would mean quite a few cables running to the shed e.g for keypad, PIRs and door contacts etc. Anyone think adding an expander in the shed is a good idea to simplify the wiring? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Whatever works, keypads have zones. Ethernet in garage just do it like two sites then would be easiest leave the house alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, Chef40 said: thinking maybe a new 24 system in garage hardwired with smartcom and 2 areas may be best compromise. if you have a job for all the radio tat.... a P48-Live is "free" panel for a little wired system in an outbuilding ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, MrHappy said: if you have a job for all the radio tat.... a P48-Live is "free" panel for a little wired system in an outbuilding ? Thank you - you’re right but the customer says the shed is quite a long way from the house and anyways, they want to know if the alarm is sounding wherever they are… I can’t help thinking maybe your two system suggestion could be easiest but there would be some saving by creating two areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 Given a single system with two areas, do you think an expander in the shed would be best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 64W-LIVE is the replacement, can get in kit form and break up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef40 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, sixwheeledbeast said: 64W-LIVE is the replacement, can get in kit form and break up. Thanks… the issue is needing remote control (via app) to alert the user if the alarm is sounding. Thanks also for pointing out the keypads have zones… difficulty is it’s only two, hence thinking about the expander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Chef40 said: Thanks… the issue is needing remote control (via app) to alert the user if the alarm is sounding. Thanks also for pointing out the keypads have zones… difficulty is it’s only two, hence thinking about the expander. So overall not much worth protecting in there anyway? I suppose texe app system is still free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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