al-yeti Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 On 03/05/2021 at 12:05, PeterJames said: HKC still have ID But it doesn't use that method does it? You making this all up? I knew you were a blagger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 I know ADE iD was a data BUS, I was told it was a proprietary version based around RS485 no idea how true that was. I recall Map6 was based around zener diodes of different values, but I only ever seen one in all my years. No idea about HKC, I assume it's not ADE iD? If so I don't see the point, why not just be BUS based like keypads be that 485 or whatever the panel uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I know ADE iD was a data BUS, I was told it was a proprietary version based around RS485 no idea how true that was. I recall Map6 was based around zener diodes of different values, but I only ever seen one in all my years. No idea about HKC, I assume it's not ADE iD? If so I don't see the point, why not just be BUS based like keypads be that 485 or whatever the panel uses. Yes bus based but not on the coms for keypads or expanders etc , no biscuits etc required , just Id via tamper as you might like wireless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 On 03/05/2021 at 11:55, PeterJames said: A very clever design, bit like how ID systems work nowadays. 3 hours ago, al-yeti said: But it doesn't use that method does it? You making this all up? I knew you were a blagger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 hours ago, al-yeti said: But it doesn't use that method does it? You making this all up? I knew you were a blagger No its way different. Old ID was designed for very short cable on relatively big cables. It was for cars. It was then given to us in bigger lengths. Hkc use a completely different system but it's limited to 10 addresses on a single core. Mixing it on cores is not supported but I've done it on old ID systems I have Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 21 hours ago, james.wilson said: No its way different. On 04/05/2021 at 19:02, PeterJames said: A very clever design, bit like how ID systems work nowadays. Define "a bit like"? My definition would not be "its the same as". My definition would be "it is a similar idea" Both systems use id chip of one form or another on one fecking circuit! Yes that's where the similarities end but you cannot deny that they are similar. Its not a pair of cables per zone is it? And the Map 6 we have is on a big house and its on old alarm cable, but not a small circuit by any means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Oh and Map 6 as the name suggests is limited to 6 fecking detectors, that's four fecking less than ten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Calm down grandad, you're arguing with yourself again. 2 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I would argue its more like EOL with six different shunt values, a data BUS would be different to measuring a pair for electrical resistance or voltage. It really isn't that big of a deal to be getting fecked over? Wouldn't mind having a look at one (or a manual) again actually, they were pretty clever for there age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: they were pretty clever for there age. That's what I said, is there no manual in the downloads ? 34 minutes ago, norman said: Calm down grandad, you're arguing with yourself again. Pff! Grandad yourself, you're not far behind me you know! James knows Im only bantering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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