CHH Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Hi I have an alarm system a Abacus 6/14 with an additional Bosch RF3249E which interfaces with the wireless PIR and impact sensors. I'm aware that this setup now is over 10 years old and as a unit need relocating I'm debating whether I should upgrade the alarm unit. Can anyone suggest a appropriate alarm unit to change this for. The keypad and alarm sounders all wired but PIR's and impact sensors are wireless so be good if we could keep the infrastructure and use the wireless equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Id say closer to 20 years old, there wont be anything that will work with your existing wireless detection hard wired will be okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 You just need another Hybrid system to replace it with then. Plenty of options but manufacturer preference will vary by installer. Look for two way communication on the wireless parts if you actually want it to work. First question you need to think about is, are you looking to do this yourself or get a man in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 8 hours ago, PeterJames said: Id say closer to 20 years old, there wont be anything that will work with your existing wireless detection hard wired will be okay My data base says I was doing 6/14r's back in 20 02 ? 2 X sanyo battery in a pir... They where rock soild I think today's tat give me more grief ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I would agree on solid but they are one way tho. Most one way stuff doesn't give grief it just silently stops working if it's tat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, sixwheeledbeast said: I would agree on solid but they are one way tho. Most one way stuff doesn't give grief it just silently stops working if it's tat. best radio stuff I've ever used worst ? scantronic 500r / Texecom ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 If I have to say best for range modified scantronic 46xx. Got a good 2km on test. Latest stuff I'm going hkc for range and little hassle, I'm sure Adrians texecom stuff would do well too as 3 way mesh though Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I'd agree 1 way is tat and similar to the DIY stuff available now but scanny 4 stuff was pretty reliable. That was 20 yrs ago though I wouldn't trust it now. I had a tech conversation today about signalling. We used to think 50v pstn and an fsi guaranteed an alarm delivery, we now expect polling and testing the alarm delivery path. Rf is no different if you don't poll you have no idea what might ish be delivered if ever. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Bosch, Scanny Radioplus gave no trouble Rick O'shea I haven't had many issues with any I fitted, but I know some have. New Visonic alright decent range too. Powermax endless issues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Agreed your the texecom expert on radio I've only supported issues on it. From what you say it's always an installation issue. I can add my bit from support. It will be brief New visonic is less troublesome than the previous, risco is popular but similar, pyronix is more on numbers but at least its 2 way ish, scanny (Eaton) is 1 way and is low on issues. Daitem is low too. There will be a day when stats like this are published. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Had more SMPS issues than Rick O'Shea problems... Have had the odd PIR false alarm or DT fail early on but generally install issues yer. Don't really touch Pyronix and pretty much every Risco system I have had to unfortunately deal with had some issue; not all wireless systems tho. The odd Galaxy I have had issues with contacts and the tamper buttons. It's all relative really that's part of why every installer prefers different kit, you wouldn't keep fitting it if you had a lot of grief with it. Give me a wired TS Menvier any day, if I were to pick an era for no hassle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Agreed showing age >v1. 6 castle 2000 or galaxy classic without the v4-to 4.06 issues. Stability wise its only hkc since I did play with a 2500 TS between that and the Gal would of been a dream panel, I know the TS team moved to tex to create the Premier Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 They refreshed the Premier, bumped all version numbers so all panel sizes were same at V7.0 firmware. Already out there just not too popular, lacking in features a little and had an odd menu structure with no shortcuts to get about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 hours ago, sixwheeledbeast said: They refreshed the Premier, bumped all version numbers so all panel sizes were same at V7.0 firmware. Already out there just not too popular, lacking in features a little and had an odd menu structure with no shortcuts to get about. Prmeir top trumps... 1st of the non veritas Premier's was the 888 The 1st Premier was a a Veritas + in Metal box with stu print on a daughter board Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 20 hours ago, MrHappy said: My data base says I was doing 6/14r's back in 20 02 ? 2 X sanyo battery in a pir... They where rock soild I think today's tat give me more grief ? Wasn't knocking the panel, just stating the facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 hours ago, MrHappy said: 1st of the non veritas Premier's was the 888 The 1st Premier was a a Veritas + in Metal box with stu print on a daughter board Didn't play with a huge amount pre V7 but I remember the 888 and 8168 were similar to what is now export only 412/816/832, Veritas cabs and STU connections on a molex lead adapter, onboard digi. Did takeover a couple, the keyboard buttons didn't have hard plastic over the rubber membrane, made a big difference to the look and feel of the keypads. Back then the TS seemed miles ahead feature wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, PeterJames said: Wasn't knocking the panel, just stating the facts the 888 became the premier 88 & was cut done to be the 48 rubber buttons where too soft & finger nails worn them out the original keypad plastics where better then current tat which slops around on the wall You ever see a digitas ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 It's the slide on fitment that makes the plastic flex, I do prefer it to the little screw in the middle tho. I remember it as a product name but never worked on one, bit like an Excel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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