aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Hi all, Happy New Year to you all. As the title suggests, what's the collective thought of these batteries from Ultramax? I have asked them if they are a direct replacement to the SLA type and they say they are indeed. Are they worth it, will they hold the system tight for much longer with mains failure than an 8 hour stint from SLA? As li-ion is the most unstable battery known to man, would you need to monitor its environment with regards to temperature triggering a zone maybe? Look forward to your thoughts Alistair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, aechlin said: Hi all, Happy New Year to you all. As the title suggests, what's the collective thought of these batteries from Ultramax? I have asked them if they are a direct replacement to the SLA type and they say they are indeed. Are they worth it, will they hold the system tight for much longer with mains failure than an 8 hour stint from SLA? As li-ion is the most unstable battery known to man, would you need to monitor its environment with regards to temperature triggering a zone maybe? Look forward to your thoughts Alistair What does your panel manufacturer recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, aechlin said: Are they worth it, will they hold the system tight for much longer with mains failure than an 8 hour stint from SLA? Its lighter & claims 6 x the service life of a lead acid battey but its still only 7Ah & 6x the price of lead acid one ? I'd rather buy 6 lead ones as 18-30yr service life it likely me or the equipment it powers will be dead ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, al-yeti said: What does your panel manufacturer recommend? Good point, as Menvier brought out the M2000 they did specify a sla, but in fairness that was recommended over 13 years ago - tech advances have moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, aechlin said: Good point, as Menvier brought out the M2000 they did specify a sla, but in fairness that was recommended over 13 years ago - tech advances have moved on. Yes I would recommend upgrading panel and battery when you do it ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Yes I would recommend upgrading panel and battery when you do it ..... Nah, I think I shall stick with the SLA, as its a lot safer or should I say less prone to getting warm and spewing sparks and smoke out. I have progressed from a TS700 years and years ago to my now M2000 which I really like - just wish it had more custom outputs because 8 just isn't enough for me. Do you still play with these al-yeti? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, aechlin said: Nah, I think I shall stick with the SLA, as its a lot safer or should I say less prone to getting warm and spewing sparks and smoke out. I have progressed from a TS700 years and years ago to my now M2000 which I really like - just wish it had more custom outputs because 8 just isn't enough for me. Do you still play with these al-yeti? Yes , I bin them often as I can and use modern equipment that has what I need and customers need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Fair enough, I may change one day when and if it packs in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, aechlin said: Fair enough, I may change one day when and if it packs in. Yes sounds good What phone you got Android or iPhone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Android - Samsung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, aechlin said: Android - Samsung I am android to , Samsung S10 or you got old S3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 neither, mines an A51 - does what I need without having to fork out £££'s. Its a phone at the end of the day, I have pc's at home and work, where I don't have to wince my eyes to read the screen and my sausage fingers can hit all the correct keys without getting them wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, aechlin said: neither, mines an A51 - does what I need without having to fork out £££'s. Its a phone at the end of the day, I have pc's at home and work, where I don't have to wince my eyes to read the screen and my sausage fingers can hit all the correct keys without getting them wrong Ok just wondering, thought you might be using an old Nokia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Ok just wondering, thought you might be using an old Nokia I can tell your trying to tempt me with something ultra modern here al-yeti......... and I don't think your gonna make me crack.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, aechlin said: I can tell your trying to tempt me with something ultra modern here al-yeti......... and I don't think your gonna make me crack.... Nah not really , but atleast you see the point where others don't So I hope that panel cracks soon , because you genuinely sound like someone who will have fun replacing it, and have those outputs switch that kettle on .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aechlin Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Well its odd, because my first alarm was a TS500, then I had a Melcom (looking back I should have gotten certified!!) Then next property a TS700 was fitted, then went onto a TS900+, the now, next property I put in a M800 and it was good, no problems. Then I went onto the current M2000. I have a SDGSM hooked onto it, outputs control lighting, also Atiny88's that use RF to control those Energenie mains sockets, all the christmas lights inside and out are controlled by them with the system timers. Only thing thats not controlled is the kettle! Its like sticking to your favourite car or van brand I suppose. You know how they work and more importantly how to fix them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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