saguy Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Hello. First time poster here. I'm getting annoyed with installers never doing exactly what I want, so trying to learn to do this myself. I have a new QD-W indoor ricochet PIR. I followed this video to add it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFKPf77VVM It seems to have gone well as I have been able to see the following: - A tamper alarm for the zone when I was busy installing the PIR - When doing a walk test for area 1 the zone is picked up when I walk through it. Due to the location of this zone it is omitted from all part arms and should only be armed when I do a full arm on area 1. I tried setting my alarm now and walking into the room, but my alarm is not triggered. Other than the omit zones, all the other settings appear to be exactly the same as another one of my zones. Attached are screenshots of the zone setup, what am I missing to get this zone to trigger my alarm when fully armed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, saguy said: I'm getting annoyed with installers never doing exactly what I want, sorry we're not prepared to come & work in your house dressed as wonder women.... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, saguy said: Hello. First time poster here. I'm getting annoyed with installers never doing exactly what I want, so trying to learn to do this myself. As this place is full of installers I dont think you will have much luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, saguy said: Hello. First time poster here. I'm getting annoyed with installers never doing exactly what I want, so trying to learn to do this myself. I have a new QD-W indoor ricochet PIR. I followed this video to add it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFKPf77VVM It seems to have gone well as I have been able to see the following: - A tamper alarm for the zone when I was busy installing the PIR - When doing a walk test for area 1 the zone is picked up when I walk through it. Due to the location of this zone it is omitted from all part arms and should only be armed when I do a full arm on area 1. I tried setting my alarm now and walking into the room, but my alarm is not triggered. Other than the omit zones, all the other settings appear to be exactly the same as another one of my zones. Attached are screenshots of the zone setup, what am I missing to get this zone to trigger my alarm when fully armed: How about you start again , your annoyed for some reason , you want to diy it to save money , cos reality that's why most ask , which isn't a problem dude You have missed a step tho somewhere , to clue or not to clue that is the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcaouolte Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 The mode for a QD-W should be Hybrid not Auto, Wait more than 3 minutes after arming the system before you walk past the PIR, the PIR will be asleep if it has been recently activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saguy Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 55 minutes ago, MrHappy said: sorry we're not prepared to come & work in your house dressed as wonder women.... 44 minutes ago, PeterJames said: As this place is full of installers I dont think you will have much luck 29 minutes ago, al-yeti said: How about you start again , your annoyed for some reason , you want to diy it to save money , cos reality that's why most ask , which isn't a problem dude You have missed a step tho somewhere , to clue or not to clue that is the question Sorry, I must apologise... really put my foot in it. Was frustrated with my local installers and with my inability to rectify the issues. Not trying to save money, literally just trying to get my system working the way I want it. When my local installers leave I'm left with spelling errors, sensors in incorrect zones and part arms setup incorrectly. Then when I changed installers they undid everything and made it worse... At one stage I even had to get someone who works at Texecom directly to come to my house to fix up the installer's errors. One of the installers had me replace half my system, only to find out later that there was no reason for me to do it. It's been frustrating, but my apologies for bringing that frustration here. Not trying to take the work out of installers hands, but sadly it's become a case of "if you want something done right, do it yourself" when it comes to my local installers and Texecom products. 33 minutes ago, pcaouolte said: The mode for a QD-W should be Hybrid not Auto, Wait more than 3 minutes after arming the system before you walk past the PIR, the PIR will be asleep if it has been recently activated. Thank you, I will test this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Why didn't the Tex employee leave it as you wanted? (wow BTW) Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, norman said: Why didn't the Tex employee leave it as you wanted? (wow BTW) Blagged it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Were the installers you chose accredited ? If so complain to their inspectorate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 non uk rkp Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 15 hours ago, pcaouolte said: The mode for a QD-W should be Hybrid not Auto, Wait more than 3 minutes after arming the system before you walk past the PIR, the PIR will be asleep if it has been recently activated. Why’s that mate? Genuine question as I only work on Pyronix. Texecom always seem to over complicate stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcaouolte Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, Amps said: Why’s that mate? Coz that's what it says in the manual Quote From the manual: Hybrid mode is used to control the reporting functions for devices. When in the mode devices are asleep when the system is set, and are woken up by the control panel at the point of arming. When the system is disarmed the devices will be put back to sleep. This mode of operation is the default mode for XT-W, QD-W & DT-W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 What’s auto mode then? You don’t get any of this nonsense with Pyronix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcaouolte Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Amps said: What’s auto mode then? Quote From the manual: Auto. When in Auto Mode, devices poll at 15 minute intervals. Following activation, devices will not transmit the same activation again for a period of 3 minutes. There is also "Always Awake". This mode should only be used on devices which are required to signal at all times and is the default setting for the Impaq Contact-W and Impaq Plus-W. Its all about getting the battery to last a bit longer. In fairness to Texecom, if you just learn on the device and leave the device settings alone each device automatically gets the correct settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, pcaouolte said: There is also "Always Awake". This mode should only be used on devices which are required to signal at all times and is the default setting for the Impaq Contact-W and Impaq Plus-W. Its all about getting the battery to last a bit longer. In fairness to Texecom, if you just learn on the device and leave the device settings alone each device automatically gets the correct settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 hours ago, MrHappy said: non uk rkp Surely its not just the uk that has inspectorates though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, pcaouolte said: There is also "Always Awake". This mode should only be used on devices which are required to signal at all times and is the default setting for the Impaq Contact-W and Impaq Plus-W. Its all about getting the battery to last a bit longer. In fairness to Texecom, if you just learn on the device and leave the device settings alone each device automatically gets the correct settings. I was about to say battery life How long they last in each mode? 50 minutes ago, Amps said: Pyronix batteries don't last long tho compared to others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcaouolte Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, al-yeti said: How long they last in each mode? Too many variables to say. A contact on a door that gets used a lot doesn't last as long as one that's rarely used. Also the signal from one device can hop through other devices, which reduces the battery life of the device that is being hopped through, but a small system with few devices can also use batteries faster as the devices struggle to poll in to the receiver and try multiple times. Its safest to use the correct mode for each device and change all batteries every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, pcaouolte said: Too many variables to say. A contact on a door that gets used a lot doesn't last as long as one that's rarely used. Also the signal from one device can hop through other devices, which reduces the battery life of the device that is being hopped through, but a small system with few devices can also use batteries faster as the devices struggle to poll in to the receiver and try multiple times. Its safest to use the correct mode for each device and change all batteries every year. Doesn't sound good then , I have many hkc will run three years easy even a door contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amps Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, al-yeti said: Pyronix batteries don't last long tho compared to others Normally change every 2 years without a problem. Known then last 3.5yeats depending on the environment. Edited December 28, 2020 by Amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Amps said: Normally change every 2 years without a problem. Known then last 3.5yeats depending on the environment. And mode lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saguy Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Well thanks for the help everyone, I managed to get the PIR in and all working fine. Also installed Wintex so I can fix all the spelling errors and inconsistencies a lot easier I see a lot of strange things though in Wintex, example - for the exact same PIRs in adjacent rooms a good few settings are different for no reason - and other things where rooms in the middle of the house are marked as Entry/Exit. Some of my Ricochet external td-w beams also require that I put in my engineer code every time they are triggered into an alarmed state, I can't clear them with a normal user reset. The one installer told me that's impossible, even though I showed him a video of exactly that. Although I'm a tad nervous messing around in Wintex. I see Texecom has free installer workshops, I may just attend those and upskill. As some of you guessed, I'm not in the UK. I'm in South Africa. Any of you fine installers want to come to SA and actually show our locals how it's done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, saguy said: Well thanks for the help everyone, I managed to get the PIR in and all working fine. Also installed Wintex so I can fix all the spelling errors and inconsistencies a lot easier I see a lot of strange things though in Wintex, example - for the exact same PIRs in adjacent rooms a good few settings are different for no reason - and other things where rooms in the middle of the house are marked as Entry/Exit. Some of my Ricochet external td-w beams also require that I put in my engineer code every time they are triggered into an alarmed state, I can't clear them with a normal user reset. The one installer told me that's impossible, even though I showed him a video of exactly that. Although I'm a tad nervous messing around in Wintex. I see Texecom has free installer workshops, I may just attend those and upskill. As some of you guessed, I'm not in the UK. I'm in South Africa. Any of you fine installers want to come to SA and actually show our locals how it's done? I guess all expenses paid in advance someone might come lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, saguy said: Well thanks for the help everyone, I managed to get the PIR in and all working fine. Also installed Wintex so I can fix all the spelling errors and inconsistencies a lot easier I see a lot of strange things though in Wintex, example - for the exact same PIRs in adjacent rooms a good few settings are different for no reason - and other things where rooms in the middle of the house are marked as Entry/Exit. Some of my Ricochet external td-w beams also require that I put in my engineer code every time they are triggered into an alarmed state, I can't clear them with a normal user reset. The one installer told me that's impossible, even though I showed him a video of exactly that. Although I'm a tad nervous messing around in Wintex. I see Texecom has free installer workshops, I may just attend those and upskill. As some of you guessed, I'm not in the UK. I'm in South Africa. Any of you fine installers want to come to SA and actually show our locals how it's done? One of my engineers moved to SA for a while, his first week as a tech (that's what they're called in SA) there was a tech shot by armed response while up a ladder fixing a bell. Apparently they all have jackets with a big T on the back to try to prevent them getting shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 hours ago, PeterJames said: there was a tech shot by armed response while up a ladder fixing a bell. Apparently they all have jackets with a big T on the back to try to prevent them getting shot. T for Target ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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