scotslad469 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Hi all hoping someone on here can help and save me trying to get someone to fix this. We have had a new kitchen installed and the fitters cracked the sensor off the wall and ive got a new one can someone help me ?? which wires go where on the new one ? The sensor on the left is the old one and the sensor on the right is the new one Pyronix KX10DP. Do i need a different PIR sensor ??? Any help would be greatly appreciated Gavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 NC/C == Alarm T/T == Tamper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 Lets pretend im stupid What colour wires go into the pyronix terminals ?? And since ive cut the old one off now the panel is saying AUX DC fail ?? Am i better getting a pro into look at it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 It depends what colour wires the installer used there is no standard. You have also likely blown a fuse. If your struggling to copy the "colours" from my post above your probably better getting someone in. Is the kitchen fitter paying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 The kitchen fitter is a friend of a friend so its down to me to pay for it all . The PIR cost £20 i could change it for something similar in spec ? the picture below is the alarm box i took the cover off it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, scotslad469 said: Hi all hoping someone on here can help and save me trying to get someone to fix this. We have had a new kitchen installed and the fitters cracked the sensor off the wall and ive got a new one can someone help me ?? which wires go where on the new one ? The sensor on the left is the old one and the sensor on the right is the new one Pyronix KX10DP. Do i need a different PIR sensor ??? Any help would be greatly appreciated Gavin White and green to tamper terminals Blue and yellow to alarm Black is minus - Red is positive + 18 minutes ago, scotslad469 said: Lets pretend im stupid What colour wires go into the pyronix terminals ?? And since ive cut the old one off now the panel is saying AUX DC fail ?? Am i better getting a pro into look at it ? Aux DC fail because probably short it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, al-yeti said: White and green to tamper terminals Blue and yellow to alarm Black is minus - Red is positive + Aux DC fail because probably short it out On the new PIR it has two connectors for Alarm and tamper one each with EOL above them what colour in the EOL screw + Red - Black Alarm EOL ? Alarm ? Tamper ? Tamper EOL ? thanks for all the help and patience and yes the glass fuse is blown I will replace it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 56 minutes ago, scotslad469 said: On the new PIR it has two connectors for Alarm and tamper one each with EOL above them what colour in the EOL screw + Red - Black Alarm EOL ? Alarm ? Tamper ? Tamper EOL ? thanks for all the help and patience and yes the glass fuse is blown I will replace it Same as what I just said And ignore eol and don't put jumpers on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 So don’t put any cables in the EOL screws ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 53 minutes ago, scotslad469 said: So don’t put any cables in the EOL screws ? Ignore the word eol and follow what I said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I guess I could type it out but I am going to be lazy , your just getting confused the word eol , ignore it , so then instructions are the same as what I said before White and green to tamper terminals Blue and yellow to alarm terminals Black is minus - terminal Red is positive + terminal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, al-yeti said: I guess I could type it out but I am going to be lazy , your just getting confused the word eol , ignore it , so then instructions are the same as what I said before White and green to tamper terminals Blue and yellow to alarm terminals Black is minus - terminal Red is positive + terminal Thanks for the help. I owe you a few of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, scotslad469 said: Thanks for the help. I owe you a few of these Iron brew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 hours ago, al-yeti said: Iron brew? 5 cups of cold piss ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 Iron brew for the hangover. But beer to cause that effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I once did a job in Ardrossan..... I believe the foreign office, issue the same advice to travelers as they do for mogadishu, apart from the sun screen ? 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, MrHappy said: I once did a job in Ardrossan..... I believe the foreign office, issue the same advice to travelers as they do for mogadishu, apart from the sun screen ? Mogadishu is safer to travel to than ardossan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Mogadishu is safer to travel to than ardossan You would be required to wear a Haz mat suit at all times and that was before COVID-19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 lol Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) Thanks to all the replies. PIR now working perfectly few issues I forgot I set the alarm to all the defaults so not knowing the default pin was #### i triggered the tamper and couldn’t shut it down but got it all done in the end. Edited July 28, 2020 by sixwheeledbeast no codes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Small bit further help. After getting the PIR sensor installed and working. I decided to do a walk test and see if everything was fine and which zones were which. I believe these are shock sensors ? well i gave them a little nudge to see which zone they were in and now they flash red constantly. Anyone any ideas how to get them to stop flashing ??? I have set the alarm and unset it ive been into engineer mode and done a reset still they flash ALL NIGHT LONG !! Any further help would be appreciated...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Is there a reset switch on the panel? they need the power dropping off to reset the led iirc. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad469 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 I can remove the battery backup and turn the power off to the panel. You think that would reset them ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Personally I would only drop the power to the detectors. I'm not sure with these panels but there will most probably be an output that resets on arm/set or something similar (pulse output perhaps?) that you can programme to drop the power momentarily on setting. Worst case, you cold wire in a small unobtrusive switch to interrupt the 12v and mount it through the casing at the bottom or something. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 They flash red all the time with comfort on, latch line is solid light 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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