Rocks1001 Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Wired is the way to go if refurbing and wireless has its uses in many devices as everyone sees Yeh that is my preference, less need to worry about batteries and dodgy wifi, I think the Samsung hub option looks like a good starting point and potentially fairly future proof but that more for the automation side of things than security Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, Rocks1001 said: That’s good advice about the hacking, can I ask from your experience do you see much benefit of wired cctv opposed to wireless, I’m trying to make sure I lay any cables at this point to try and future proof myself before the floor and walls get finished I wouldnt use wireless for security if it can be wired, especially CCTV. If you run Cat 5 to your camera positions you can either POE them (better but more expensive) or if your on a budget you can use AHD cameras with Baluns. I would also advise running cables for the intruder and a couple of cat 5 to the TV point that way you can use HDMI over cat5 to the tv from the recorder. All my light switch's are 433 similar to the Lightwave ones (I used to have lightwave ones but having a button for on and a button for off was too complicated for my keyholder) I have outputs on my alarm hard wired to 433 transmitters, same with the CCTV, and I have a 433 receiver wired to a zone programed as keyswitch for arm only, so I can get alexa to arm the alarm, but she cant switch it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hub wise I would recommend one of these you dont need an internet connection for your stuff to work, unless of course you are using Alexa Hubitat hub: https://hubitat.com/products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocks1001 Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 hours ago, PeterJames said: I wouldnt use wireless for security if it can be wired, especially CCTV. If you run Cat 5 to your camera positions you can either POE them (better but more expensive) or if your on a budget you can use AHD cameras with Baluns. I would also advise running cables for the intruder and a couple of cat 5 to the TV point that way you can use HDMI over cat5 to the tv from the recorder. All my light switch's are 433 similar to the Lightwave ones (I used to have lightwave ones but having a button for on and a button for off was too complicated for my keyholder) I have outputs on my alarm hard wired to 433 transmitters, same with the CCTV, and I have a 433 receiver wired to a zone programed as keyswitch for arm only, so I can get alexa to arm the alarm, but she cant switch it off. Hey, many thanks for the detailed reply, yes my instinct was to go with POE cameras, I heard Viper Qvis are decent 5mp, I’m only need 2 so I assume 4channel nvr will suffice. Can I ask which Brand light switches you use? And also do have smart sockets? I’m struggling to find nice looking smart dimmer switches, looked at adding the Sonoff mini’s but they don’t work with dimmers, can’t see anything apart from the Lightwave but they are expensive and also a rather bland aesthetically. For sockets I’ve seen these BG electric but again only come in white... https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/BG922HC.html?source=adwords&ad_position=&ad_id=415703895087&placement=&kw=&network=u&matchtype=&ad_type=&product_id=BG922HC&product_partition_id=889135910870&campaign=shopping_switches_sockets&version=finalurl_v3&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlN32BRCCARIsADZ-J4uX1Sc4bx0lZdQdtOh5oStXHhgGvGS4j4QsMC8P9YHBUagftElHv7kaAu4QEALw_wcB The Hubitat hub looks interesting, never heard of it but looks good, will check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, Rocks1001 said: Hey, many thanks for the detailed reply, yes my instinct was to go with POE cameras, I heard Viper Qvis are decent 5mp, I’m only need 2 so I assume 4channel nvr will suffice. Can I ask which Brand light switches you use? And also do have smart sockets? I’m struggling to find nice looking smart dimmer switches, looked at adding the Sonoff mini’s but they don’t work with dimmers, can’t see anything apart from the Lightwave but they are expensive and also a rather bland aesthetically. For sockets I’ve seen these BG electric but again only come in white... https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/BG922HC.html?source=adwords&ad_position=&ad_id=415703895087&placement=&kw=&network=u&matchtype=&ad_type=&product_id=BG922HC&product_partition_id=889135910870&campaign=shopping_switches_sockets&version=finalurl_v3&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlN32BRCCARIsADZ-J4uX1Sc4bx0lZdQdtOh5oStXHhgGvGS4j4QsMC8P9YHBUagftElHv7kaAu4QEALw_wcB The Hubitat hub looks interesting, never heard of it but looks good, will check it out I imported the light switch's from China I used to buy a lot of CCTV directly I buy very little now. There are a few different ones on ebay, but most dont do two way for hall and landing where you need to switch either light from upstairs or downstairs for example. The ones I imported have a wireless switch that looks the same as the normal switches, so rooms that have two light switch's have a wireless one at one end. Mine are similar to the Sonoff switches https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sonoff-T3-EU-1Gang-Smart-WiFi-Wireless-Touch-Switch-Wall-Light-Remote/293588175534?hash=item445b380aae:m:mKb5butd_BuZhQ7hDIl-K6Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 hours ago, PeterJames said: I imported the light switch's from China I used to buy a lot of CCTV directly I buy very little now. There are a few different ones on ebay, but most dont do two way for hall and landing where you need to switch either light from upstairs or downstairs for example. The ones I imported have a wireless switch that looks the same as the normal switches, so rooms that have two light switch's have a wireless one at one end. Mine are similar to the Sonoff switches https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sonoff-T3-EU-1Gang-Smart-WiFi-Wireless-Touch-Switch-Wall-Light-Remote/293588175534?hash=item445b380aae:m:mKb5butd_BuZhQ7hDIl-K6Q Did you rewire? As you need the neutral at each point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, al-yeti said: Did you rewire? As you need the neutral at each point No neutral required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 If you've got the usual 3 point lighting system, you can put the module at the ceiling point and switches are just plain retractable ones. I use Fibaro and the dimmer module (but only the dimmer) doesn#t need a neutral even with LED lamps. This means you can place it behind the switch and still have 2 switches, one for up one for down This way by using manufacturers own retractable grid switches I can keep all my sockets and switches looking the same regardless of which HA I am using as I've also got a few Qubino modules either for cheapness (esp. devices with no local switch required) or where only Qubino make that module such as 1-10v dimming. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, PeterJames said: No neutral required The link above rear of light switches shows neutral? Maybe I googled wrong lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 hours ago, al-yeti said: The link above rear of light switches shows neutral? Maybe I googled wrong lol Sorry I didnt look that close I said mine are similar heres a link for one with no neutral Ill post a pic of mine in a minhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Smart-Wifi-Touch-Wall-Switch-No-Neutral-Required-1-2-3-Gang-UK-SELLER/164050287240?var=463672810618&hash=item263228ba88:g:VNoAAOSwFzdev~vb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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