lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Hi, The management want me to start a new thread on this old system, but no help as to where to start it, so If in wrong place stick it where it should be. Question. System works as it did when I installed it around 1990 but the outside bell don't ring anymore. I could replace the whole lot but why? Before I have a look inside the bell box can anybody remember what was inside? I'll leave it there at the moment and see what developes. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Any external sounder will do, the Bentley is quite old so before replacing the external sounder I would check that its not a fault with the panel bell output Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 as above it could be externl sounder. That age it probably isnt an SAB so could be sounder failure, cable failure, panel failure etc etc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Pretty sure they are SCB's on that age Bentley. Maybe even positive trigger? I would be checking the panel and it's outputs respond correctly to an alarm activation with a meter before even considering the ladders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 possibly pos tamper return too i cant remeber Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 All understood, thanks. Will, check at the panel first. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, james.wilson said: possibly pos tamper return too i cant remember Agreed it was pos return, and pos trigger iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) I found the instructions, that will help. (Unusable image removed to save server space) Edited May 7, 2020 by datadiffusion Remove image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 i cant make out the connections on that im afraid Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, james.wilson said: i cant make out the connections on that im afraid Is this any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 yes shows neg tamper return and neg bell trigger. Whats the external sounder look like Im assuming F2 is intact Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 The Yale Yellow sounder box is metal and it's shape is a rectangular cuboid. I saw Fuse F2 on the schematic but have not opened the panel to check it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, lancepar said: The Yale Yellow sounder yuk thats probably your problem Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Yes, that was my original thinking. When the weather settles down I'll get the ladders out and try and open it up. Cheers Edited April 30, 2020 by lancepar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 5 hours ago, lancepar said: The management probably only me thinking of Hale & Pace? The OP is probably the only poster ever to put his postcode in "location", I think I speak for every one on TSI when I express my deepest condolences for living nr Dudley ? 2 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, MrHappy said: probably only me thinking of Hale & Pace? The OP is probably the only poster ever to put his postcode in "location", I think I speak for every one on TSI when I express my deepest condolences for living nr Dudley ? LOL ! James's patch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 up the bonk! Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, james.wilson said: up the bonk! google translate comes back negative... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Unlike down the Lye it's Quarry Bonk not up the bonk, aer kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 oops Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 It dow matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 bostin Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Well I suppose if the repairing of the alarm doesnt work, you can donate it to the Black Country Museum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancepar Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Hadn't thought about that, Good call. Doubt if it will go ding-a-ling again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, MrHappy said: google translate comes back negative... You need to turn safe search off. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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