Andrew Averill Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Good afternoon all. I know the replace old for new has been discussed over and over but. Some years back we bought a new house and was able to get the sparks to run alarm cable in for us even though we bought from a national house builder group. When we moved in I bought an Abacus system and fitted it myself with no problems. We moved into an older house some six years back which has a Risco system fitted. Problem is, I need to extend the system and have realised all the PIR’s are daisy chained together using the biscuit system to identify back at the panel. The biscuits are available on eBay but I’m thinking its not worth the hassle bearing in mind its an old system. Our property isn’t small and probably extends out to around 5-6000 sq ft, we also live out in the sticks and fairly isolated. A wireless system is probably the best way to go with all the bells and whistles. Can anyone recommend a solid system? Many thanks in anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hi, welcome to TSI. Is there literally just one line from the panel for all sensors? In my experience with iD systems, there is rarely just the one massive chain but maybe 1 or 2 smaller ones, just for convenience, even if they are commonned at the panel. IF thats the case on a domestic, and provided there are enough cores, you can often just use the same wiring with shared power and 2 wire EOL at the detector. Or at worst minimise the amount of wireless components. Remember, a wireless alarm will need regular battery changes - I always avoid wireless where it can be avoided Also, if you really mean Risco, this isn't the iD biscuit system, this would (in my more limited experience) surely be the Risco Bus system, which is fairly unpopular but I think still current? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew Averill said: Good afternoon all. I know the replace old for new has been discussed over and over but. Some years back we bought a new house and was able to get the sparks to run alarm cable in for us even though we bought from a national house builder group. When we moved in I bought an Abacus system and fitted it myself with no problems. We moved into an older house some six years back which has a Risco system fitted. Problem is, I need to extend the system and have realised all the PIR’s are daisy chained together using the biscuit system to identify back at the panel. The biscuits are available on eBay but I’m thinking its not worth the hassle bearing in mind its an old system. Our property isn’t small and probably extends out to around 5-6000 sq ft, we also live out in the sticks and fairly isolated. A wireless system is probably the best way to go with all the bells and whistles. Can anyone recommend a solid system? Many thanks in anticipation. Self install nice DIY panel pyronix enforcer Then although only 1way on devices the Eaton ion 40 Both okish to self install Then you got panels some you can buy some you can't but most need installer if you want it done right Like texecom premier elite ricochet system Hkc Vanderbilt Dimension if you want to get carried away but not very residential friendly so bottom of list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Logan said: Can you please attach a picture of the panel, keypad and pirs You just want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Careful Jimmy... Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Logan said: If its a ID system NEITHER of these panels would work As I say, outside of commercial where the iD system really WAS a useful idea, e.g. warehouses with about 20 fire doors around the perimeter, I've never come across a domestic one yet where there were not 2 or even 3 branches and enough spare cores. But if it is Risco I doubt it is iD and might be worth extending, as as far as I know Risco Bus is still a current product. Back to the OP... Edited February 13, 2020 by datadiffusion 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Logan said: If its a ID system NEITHER of these panels would work Logan read what he said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Averill Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Pic of the PIR. Will remove the cover off the panel tomorrow and take a pic of the keypad. Had to remove and refit PIR earlier in the year and took pic so I could wire it back up properly just in case I cocked it up lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Andrew Averill said: Pic of the PIR. Will remove the cover off the panel tomorrow and take a pic of the keypad. Had to remove and refit PIR earlier in the year and took pic so I could wire it back up properly just in case I cocked it up lol. its DT... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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