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Hi all.

I best start of saying I'm a complete beginner when it comes to alarm systems as you'll probably guess. I have a Honeywell Flex 20 and a keypad and a couple of budget PIR motion sensors to test out wiring EOL before I buy more (better quality) and install.

On the manual its shows 8 connections on the sensor.

2x Faults,

2xTamper,

2x Alarm

2 Power.

But on most of the motion sensors I've seen they only have 6 connections.

2xTamper

2x Alarm

2x Power

The manuals showing me where to wire the resistors including into the 2 fault connections but how do i wire the resistors if I only have the 6 connections?

I watched a couple of YouTube videos and I'm thinking I may have it right but now I'm not sure how that wires to the board as again the manual shows the fault connections being wired to the board.

I've attached a couple of pictures from the manual and one from the sensor I think it's wired right, you'll have to ignore the wire colours as I'm using old cat5 cable for testing.

Also another part what should be easy is if I'm not using a zone on the alarm I'm not actually sure where to wire them.

Sorry for the fact questions and thanks for any help.

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19 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

Fault is optional for higher grade detectors just wire it as you have for alarm and tamper

Thanks for the reply.

So how do I tell which is the tamper connection and which is the alarm connection on each zone on the panel ? As it doesn't label them like on the sensors.

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I reccomend you you 8 core alarm cable. Using phone or cat 5 Ethernet network can cause problems 

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7 minutes ago, Logan said:

I reccomend you you 8 core alarm cable. Using phone or cat 5 Ethernet network can cause problems 

Thanks I have bought alarm cable just waiting for it being delivered.

Although the manual does recommend Cat5 cable.

Although I've only ordered 4 core as I thought that's all I need.

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7 minutes ago, Steve23 said:

Thanks I have bought alarm cable just waiting for it being delivered.

Although the manual does recommend Cat5 cable.

Although I've only ordered 4 core as I thought that's all I need.

Its always reccomend to have spare cores

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3 hours ago, Steve23 said:

Thanks for the reply.

So how do I tell which is the tamper connection and which is the alarm connection on each zone on the panel ? As it doesn't label them like on the sensors.

Panel just wire the two cores to a zone and that's it , the panel uses two cores for the zone for tamper and alarm , which is why eol is done at the sensor

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15 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Panel just wire the two cores to a zone and that's it , the panel uses two cores for the zone for tamper and alarm , which is why eol is done at the sensor

Thanks.

I'm not great with this can I just check,

You are basically saying I can use either of the zone connections as long as the resistors are right in the sensor ?

Can I also ask you about the diagram above, it shows the  -V joining one of the alarm wires on the sensor side and then onto the 0V on the panel..

Is that the normal way of doing it then 

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41 minutes ago, Steve23 said:

Thanks.

I'm not great with this can I just check,

You are basically saying I can use either of the zone connections as long as the resistors are right in the sensor ?

Can I also ask you about the diagram above, it shows the  -V joining one of the alarm wires on the sensor side and then onto the 0V on the panel..

Is that the normal way of doing it then 

Can be yes 

 

But at panel 

 

0v to one leg of sensor which is centre of zone1&2

 

And Z1 leg to other leg of sensor

 

Then zone 2 would be one leg from same 0v connection at panel and other leg to z2

You could ignore that drawing as it may confuse you using the fault connections

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I think galaxy's are a very good but also very complicated for the avg DIYer

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I see that as a plus tbf.


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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27 minutes ago, norman said:

I see that as a plus tbf.

I love my galaxy 16+  

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41 minutes ago, Logan said:

I love my galaxy 16+  

More complicated than a g2

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Thanks for the info guys.

Yeah i realise there's more to it then I thought :lol:.

I naively thought  the connections would be similar to what the kepad was

A to A,

B to B etc

Can I double check with you guys, I asked the question at the same time on a Facebook group and someone suggested putting the resistors inline and not into the connections on the sensor is that how you would do it ?

I'm talking to him through Google translate so thought it would be a bit tricky to ask him.

He sent me this picture.

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2 minutes ago, Steve23 said:

Thanks for the info guys.

Yeah i realise there's more to it then I thought :lol:.

I naively thought  the connections would be similar to what the kepad was

A to A,

B to B etc

Can I double check with you guys, I asked the question at the same time on a Facebook group and someone suggested putting the resistors inline and not into the connections on the sensor is that how you would do it ?

I'm talking to him through Google translate so thought it would be a bit tricky to ask him.

He sent me this picture.

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Forget this drawing , as jw already said what you done is ok 

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30 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Better passives with resistors built in is an option too.

Like the pyronix kx15dq 

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8 hours ago, Steve23 said:

I best start of saying I'm a complete beginner when it comes to alarm systems as you'll probably guess.

 

Buy a dog....

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Mr:)

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1 hour ago, Steve23 said:

Facebook group and someone suggested putting the resistors in line and not into the connections on the sensor is that how you would do it ?

 

No, I'm in the English, we don't do that sort of thing...

 

1 hour ago, Steve23 said:

I'm talking to him through Google translate so thought it would be a bit tricky to ask him.

 

In his part of the world they probably, have dead dogs in the street, open sewers & wire alarm funny....

 

Was it Prestatyn ?

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52 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Wouldn't fit anything that hasn't got sealed optics.

 

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28 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

No, I'm in the English, we don't do that sort of thing...

 

 

In his part of the world they probably, have dead dogs in the street, open sewers & wire alarm funny....

 

Was it Prestatyn ?

That town has changed from the email notification I got :lol:

I do have a dog who likes to sleep and not notice anything or anyone lol

By the way are these Pet immune sensors a gimmick or do they actually work for dogs.

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15 minutes ago, Steve23 said:

That town has changed from the email notification I got :lol:

 

I realised that Rochdale has yet to get internet....


Mr:)

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15 minutes ago, MrHappy said:

 

I realised that Rochdale has yet to get internet....

Then how does risco have a website 

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26 minutes ago, Logan said:

Then how does risco have a website 

 

Hosted by Incapsula Inc Washington USA

 

Any orders from the Risco store are sent by Telex to Rochdale,

 

There is a time difference to account for, its about 30yrs....

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