sixwheeledbeast Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 TS series is pretty reliable if you don't need a hammer to operate the keys on the keypad yet. Power it up check all the voltages new battery see how you go. Maybe replace the bellbox as the battery could be busted (won't recharge) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregT Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 Thanks for the help- much appreciated My input as a consumer, is that I just really want a deterrent. I have no expensive valuables to protect. And fortunately I have good neighbours. If the bell sounds, that should hopefully alert them. Cant imagine I am wealthy enough to be targeted by a sophisticated crook thats going to climb up to my external bell box. Or maybe I am naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Doesn't have to be a sophisticated crook, bellbox attacks happen. All the components in a properly fitted system are designed to detect any tampering and sound an appropriate alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 To be fair OP you know you don't want to use the DIY stuff Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, GregT said: Thanks for the help- much appreciated My input as a consumer, is that I just really want a deterrent. I have no expensive valuables to protect. And fortunately I have good neighbours. If the bell sounds, that should hopefully alert them. Cant imagine I am wealthy enough to be targeted by a sophisticated crook thats going to climb up to my external bell box. Or maybe I am naive. Deterrent? Professional dummy box like a ADT box off eBay probably be better than what your trying to do, no offence intended Forget the dog buy the box and then play around with the alarm for the next 6months while ADT box is up there , get flasher unit with it if you can Edited February 1, 2020 by al-yeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, Logan said: Adt doesn't have the greatest reputation As opposed to? Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 ADT dummy box more of a deterrent than a working system? If that was the case hardly anyone would fit a system. [Logan: ADT is whole different topic you can't compare a national to a local like that, start that topic somewhere else, please] Considering the knowledge you have shown about the components and operation (areas/zones) of the system and my experience giving advice here, you'll probably struggle to DIY. Minimum requirement will be batteries (probably replacing the bell at the same time) system checks with a multimeter (knowledge how to do these), walk test, beel test, operation checks etc etc. Even then you will have to hope the programming is to your liking, otherwise you'll have to learn how to program a system with limited access to manuals or the terminology in them. Someone that knows how to program a Menvier could likely recommission everything in less than an hour. Consider all this before you leap at the task of DIY, your playing with a safety system that could annoy your neighbours when you can't shut it up in the early hours, you've then lost some of your deterrent factor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 48 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: ADT dummy box more of a deterrent than a working system? If that was the case hardly anyone would fit a system. TBF that sounds like the last ten years to me! 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 58 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: ADT dummy box more of a deterrent than a working system? If that was the case hardly anyone would fit a system. He's talking about the deterrent value though, you wouldn't know it was a real system until you'd passed the point of being 'deterred' 2 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Especially with ADT since they don't sell dummies, and even the dumbest most drugged up crim will probably recognise the brand / box. Hate to admit it but Yale have the same effect - see a Yale box, 9.5/10 it must have at least been a whole system at some point. Granted, probably badly installed / not working / unset now, but you won't know until you try. Edited February 2, 2020 by datadiffusion 1 Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Logan said: Havent yet seen a adt job as neat as this You've lived a very sheltered life then. Nice mains btw 2 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GregT Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 So would really appreciate an honest general consensus please? What is my best option bearing in mind I don’t want anything too sophisticated. 1. Is it worth me buying a back up battery for the panel, switching it on and just see what happens? I have the codes, the installation and user manuals. As far as my skills are concerned I have never touched an alarm system, but prior to Part P regs, I rewired my house, so am comfortable with electrics. I am conscious there must be a reason why it was disconnected but based on my knowledge of the previous owner who was an overseas landlord and cut all the corners, I am guessing/hoping it was easier than dealing with tenants false alarms, maintenance, etc. 2. Or the obvious alternative of calling out a local installer, which may be sensible or may be a wasted call out charge 3. Or, use the money for a call out charge, to invest in a very basic, simple to install, diy Wi-fi system. Looks like that would cost maybe £500. 4. Or is there a simple wired system I could slip into my existing panel maybe. Mr Happy, I know you will add the fifth, get a dog! The fact is we have a large dog, the alarm is only for occasional use when we go away on holiday etc. thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 34 minutes ago, GregT said: Mr Happy, I know you will add the fifth, get a dog! dam... The alarm has been messed about with so- Ideally you need a proper alarm man, who'll charge you to look at it Its 20yr old kit if the rkp & cables are okay, a new battery & external sounder will probably be needed Retain the wires & replace every item is my preferred option Then you need to have a service agreement in place, as daft it seems they do require checking To do things properly cost money (I doubt you have 20yr mobile. Tv or car as daily driver) Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 To think logon if nothing ever gets updated your musuem will look sparse Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, GregT said: So would really appreciate an honest general consensus please? What is my best option bearing in mind I don’t want anything too sophisticated. 1. Is it worth me buying a back up battery for the panel, switching it on and just see what happens? I have the codes, the installation and user manuals. As far as my skills are concerned I have never touched an alarm system, but prior to Part P regs, I rewired my house, so am comfortable with electrics. I am conscious there must be a reason why it was disconnected but based on my knowledge of the previous owner who was an overseas landlord and cut all the corners, I am guessing/hoping it was easier than dealing with tenants false alarms, maintenance, etc. 2. Or the obvious alternative of calling out a local installer, which may be sensible or may be a wasted call out charge 3. Or, use the money for a call out charge, to invest in a very basic, simple to install, diy Wi-fi system. Looks like that would cost maybe £500. 4. Or is there a simple wired system I could slip into my existing panel maybe. Mr Happy, I know you will add the fifth, get a dog! The fact is we have a large dog, the alarm is only for occasional use when we go away on holiday etc. thanks for the help. Go for either Pyronix enforcer Or Ion40 Eaton Forget that old panel , latter can handle wired zones easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Agreed as good as TS700 was in the day it really belongs in the same place as a Ford Escort, e.g. a collector looking for novelty and nostalgia over reliability. But the point stands - are you (OP) really up to this or not, it's hard for us to tell from here really. It's hard to give advice from the point of view that most of us here could replace the system in a couple of hours and would be prepared for the usual problems you get when reactivating an old system (cable faults, hidden jucntion boxes, etc...) or false alarms later on. One thing I would say is forget the DIY wireless option, such systems are not much cheaper and mostly rubbish, especially Yale and the likes. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: Agreed as good as TS700 was in the day it really belongs in the same place as a Ford Escort, e.g. a collector looking for novelty and nostalgia over reliability. But the point stands - are you (OP) really up to this or not, it's hard for us to tell from here really. It's hard to give advice from the point of view that most of us here could replace the system in a couple of hours and would be prepared for the usual problems you get when reactivating an old system (cable faults, hidden jucntion boxes, etc...) or false alarms later on. One thing I would say is forget the DIY wireless option, such systems are not much cheaper and mostly rubbish, especially Yale and the likes. I would take longer than couple of hours , atleast half , am old now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 You know what I mean though, don't worry I'd also allow half a day or more if it hadn't been in use immediately before the upgrade. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I'd say a call out would be considerable less time and money than the price to purchase a load of kit your not sure how to fit yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregT Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 OK. Thanks for all the very helpful feedback. I am in no mad rush. But based on your feedback,I am leaning towards finding a reliable and recommended local person, who I can talk it all through with. Appreciate all the input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, GregT said: OK. Thanks for all the very helpful feedback. I am in no mad rush. But based on your feedback,I am leaning towards finding a reliable and recommended local person, who I can talk it all through with. Appreciate all the input Please don't leave us , we will go mad here by ourselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregT Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 I will let you know how i get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, GregT said: I will let you know how i get on Walks in the park, trips to the vets, Oh my bad, your mending the alarm.... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Logan said: I found you in my school Age is starting to show , those were good books , now we face the real Mr H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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