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For a system im doing (just for fun)  would a fused spur with "fire alarm panel do not switch off with a 3a fuse be ok  or will i need something like this

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a plug top would be good enough for a "just for fun system"

 

 

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Just now, MrHappy said:

a plug top would be good enough for a "just for fun system"

 

 

Well i just wanted it to look more professional. 

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I am not entirely convinced those keyswitch chink jobs have actually been tested to any meaningful standard myself.

 

In terms of isolation, even MK bottle it with the keyswitch thing; theirs (which is what I fit) as a plastic, totally isolated affair where a keyswitch just makes a plastic disc switch a reverse-mounted, hidden gridswitch

 

(can I find a pic, can I bollox...)

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So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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6 minutes ago, datadiffusion said:

I am not entirely convinced those keyswitch chink jobs have actually been tested to any meaningful standard myself.

 

In terms of isolation, even MK bottle it with the keyswitch thing; theirs (which is what I fit) as a plastic, totally isolated affair where a keyswitch just makes a plastic disc switch a reverse-mounted, hidden gridswitch

 

(can I find a pic, can I bollox...)

Why not use the metal boxes , screwed security type fuse hold and fish key slot on same 1gang plate  for testing 

 

You get me?

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Yeah have done that before too


So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands

 

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15 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

Need key isolate and indication and double pole switch 

Thanks 

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6 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

As a hobbyist can you get to read the relevant standards? 

This is what ive been working on.  Waiting to get a fire panel.  I got a labelled fuse spur but i thought it was probably not compliment 

 

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1 minute ago, james.wilson said:

Your right it isnt

The label is for the consumer unit

 

Also using used old colour code FP200 that i ripped out of a building getting demolished 

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But it's just a label put in the wrong place. 

You can see why some get annoyed. There are so many people doing this sort of stuff assuming they know the regs. BTW when you go 24v you need 300mm fixings, you still need fire proof fixings but the distance isn't defined

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Also using used old colour code FP200 that i ripped out of a building getting demolished 

I'm not sure 2nd cable is OK but I'm not sure as it's nothing I'd consider. 


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Ok. I plan to get a menvier mf200 (used) from a building renovation. Have no clue if the panel will work when i get it

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Just now, james.wilson said:

Again that's fine as a play thing 

I dont know if it will work with a devices i have. I think the panel is 12 volt instead of 24 volts

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11 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said:

Some small Menvier stuff had 12v standby, but still 24v

I think you're right 

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Doesn’t need to be double pole anymore, single pole secret keyswitch will do as long as it’s marked up fire alarm do not switch off 

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1 hour ago, james.wilson said:

But it's just a label put in the wrong place. 

You can see why some get annoyed. There are so many people doing this sort of stuff assuming they know the regs. BTW when you go 24v you need 300mm fixings, you still need fire proof fixings but the distance isn't defined

I'm not sure 2nd cable is OK but I'm not sure as it's nothing I'd consider. 

This is what annoys me.    How many fails can you see?  Also not to mention the TS900 keypad and sounder that has been ripped off the wall (yes its still live)

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2 minutes ago, Shaunb1905 said:

Doesn’t need to be double pole anymore, single pole secret keyswitch will do as long as it’s marked up fire alarm do not switch off 

Oh, so normal fused spur then will do?


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1 minute ago, Shaunb1905 said:

No, has to have a special tool. So spurs are no good as no special tool is required 

Like the one above the panel?

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Fishtail Spur. 


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.


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