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Hi,

 

I have a Pyronix Enforcer v10 which is possibly playing up and while I look for a company to maintain it, I would like to turn off the external bell box/siren (wireless) to stop it sounding.  Is this possible and how could I achieve this from the panel?

 

I have access to the panel + engineer's menu.

 

Thanks

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You cant do it from the panel, the bell is self actuating and has a battery in it. That's why so many non serviced alarms go off when there is a powercut.

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Thanks for confirming.  The unit was installed previously when I bought the property and have not taken much notice of it so need to look for a company.

 

Would low battery cause it to alarm sporadically?  I noticed this alert recently but wasn't sure if it would just stop working (fine with me for now) or I'd have issues as battery drained?

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1 minute ago, OneManBand said:

Thanks for confirming.  The unit was installed previously when I bought the property and have not taken much notice of it so need to look for a company.

 

Would low battery cause it to alarm sporadically?  I noticed this alert recently but wasn't sure if it would just stop working (fine with me for now) or I'd have issues as battery drained?

No I reckon it's a tamper issue 

 

You say it's wireless and goes off for no reason even when unset?

 

Fix it instead of disabling it , although it can be taken off system it will still bell if it has an issue

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Yes, just reading tamper issues common. Although the deltabell appears to be firmly fixed so not sure how the tamper could be triggering.

 

I reviewed the logs and didn't see any alerts for tamper, false alarms, triggers.  If communication is fine between the two devices, is it possible for the siren to be going off without it recording in the panel?

 

Is it fairly easy to replace the battery? Could I replace without setting off the tamper (enter engineers menu?) and no special pairing required if I swap out battery?

 

The box does not have flashing lights so I assume it is a deltabell-we and needs this type of battery but I'd need to get up there and lift cover.

 

Thanks

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3 minutes ago, OneManBand said:

Yes, just reading tamper issues common. Although the deltabell appears to be firmly fixed so not sure how the tamper could be triggering.

 

I reviewed the logs and didn't see any alerts for tamper, false alarms, triggers.  If communication is fine between the two devices, is it possible for the siren to be going off without it recording in the panel?

 

Is it fairly easy to replace the battery? Could I replace without setting off the tamper (enter engineers menu?) and no special pairing required if I swap out battery?

 

The box does not have flashing lights so I assume it is a deltabell-we and needs this type of battery but I'd need to get up there and lift cover.

 

Thanks

Might be a faulty bell box. But doubt it 

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29 minutes ago, OneManBand said:

Yes, just reading tamper issues common. Although the deltabell appears to be firmly fixed so not sure how the tamper could be triggering.

 

I reviewed the logs and didn't see any alerts for tamper, false alarms, triggers.  If communication is fine between the two devices, is it possible for the siren to be going off without it recording in the panel?

 

Is it fairly easy to replace the battery? Could I replace without setting off the tamper (enter engineers menu?) and no special pairing required if I swap out battery?

 

The box does not have flashing lights so I assume it is a deltabell-we and needs this type of battery but I'd need to get up there and lift cover.

 

Thanks

Flashing.lights?

 

Is it wireless or not? As I didn't think the deltabell wireless had comfort lights as any standard option 

48 minutes ago, OneManBand said:

Thanks for confirming.  The unit was installed previously when I bought the property and have not taken much notice of it so need to look for a company.

 

Would low battery cause it to alarm sporadically?  I noticed this alert recently but wasn't sure if it would just stop working (fine with me for now) or I'd have issues as battery drained?

What alert did you get exactly?

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18 hours ago, al-yeti said:

Flashing.lights?

 

Is it wireless or not? As I didn't think the deltabell wireless had comfort lights as any standard option 

What alert did you get exactly?

It is wireless.  By flashing lights, I mean the led lights that are on the deltabox when the system is armed.  I think those are deltabell-x and deltabell plus.  Mine is the standard deltabell-we I believe.  According to their page anyways here.

 

So the main panel started warning "Siren 1 wireless low battery" a few days ago.  I guess the cold weather probably caused the battery (I believe fitted 2-3 years ago).

 

Maybe I should change the battery first.  @al-yeti, I assume this is straightforward to do?  Do I need to disable tamper alarm first or put the main panel in engineers mode to stop it from tripping the siren? Then swap the battery and replace cover?

 

Thanks for replies

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1 hour ago, OneManBand said:

It is wireless.  By flashing lights, I mean the led lights that are on the deltabox when the system is armed.  I think those are deltabell-x and deltabell plus.  Mine is the standard deltabell-we I believe.  According to their page anyways here.

 

So the main panel started warning "Siren 1 wireless low battery" a few days ago.  I guess the cold weather probably caused the battery (I believe fitted 2-3 years ago).

 

Maybe I should change the battery first.  @al-yeti, I assume this is straightforward to do?  Do I need to disable tamper alarm first or put the main panel in engineers mode to stop it from tripping the siren? Then swap the battery and replace cover?

 

Thanks for replies

Just change the battery , put it into engineer mode open that box and get on with it , doooooooo it 

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18 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Just change the battery , put it into engineer mode open that box and get on with it , doooooooo it 

haha indeed. ok i'll give it a go this weekend once i confirm the battery type.

 

obviously very subjective but how much should a annual maintenance contract cost for such a system?  once i look for a company, i want to ensure it isn't unreasonable in price!

i was quoted by one company £15 per month and 2 or 3 year minimum term. I'd hope for that price it covers cost of replacement parts.

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18 minutes ago, OneManBand said:

how much should a annual maintenance contract cost for such a system?  once i look for a company, i want to ensure it isn't unreasonable in price!

 

I'd expect a small radio system, fully comp with an app to a little less than your figure.

 

However I'm in the North of England

 

If your in the South or have proper monitoring your figure sounds okay or maybe even cheap...

 

Running a co. is expensive, £15 per month is unlikely to make many millionaires


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53 minutes ago, OneManBand said:

haha indeed. ok i'll give it a go this weekend once i confirm the battery type.

 

obviously very subjective but how much should a annual maintenance contract cost for such a system?  once i look for a company, i want to ensure it isn't unreasonable in price!

i was quoted by one company £15 per month and 2 or 3 year minimum term. I'd hope for that price it covers cost of replacement parts.

Won't cover all parts be serious man 

 

But will give you peace of mind 

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33 minutes ago, al-yeti said:

Won't cover all parts be serious man 

 

But will give you peace of mind 

QFA

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Thanks for the help lads.  Replaced battery and everything back to normal.

 

For anyone else that comes across this, it is fairly simple to replace the battery.

  1. Get up to the siren
  2. Lift up the little plastic flap covering the screw
  3. If battery still has some juice, it will trip the tamper, else nothing will sound
  4. You can lift the PCB up and out of the housing fairly easy if want to replace on the ground (good design Pyrnoix!)
  5. Replace the battery in the white plastic housing
  6. No learning procedure required
  7. Slide the PCB housing back into the main siren housing
  8. Note, the tamper may trip (it is the little contact relay at the front).  Hold it down if bothered by the noise
  9. Lower flap, put screw back on
  10. Set alarm, trip and test siren sounds

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