OneManBand Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hi, I have a Pyronix Enforcer v10 which is possibly playing up and while I look for a company to maintain it, I would like to turn off the external bell box/siren (wireless) to stop it sounding. Is this possible and how could I achieve this from the panel? I have access to the panel + engineer's menu. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 You cant do it from the panel, the bell is self actuating and has a battery in it. That's why so many non serviced alarms go off when there is a powercut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Thanks for confirming. The unit was installed previously when I bought the property and have not taken much notice of it so need to look for a company. Would low battery cause it to alarm sporadically? I noticed this alert recently but wasn't sure if it would just stop working (fine with me for now) or I'd have issues as battery drained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, OneManBand said: Thanks for confirming. The unit was installed previously when I bought the property and have not taken much notice of it so need to look for a company. Would low battery cause it to alarm sporadically? I noticed this alert recently but wasn't sure if it would just stop working (fine with me for now) or I'd have issues as battery drained? No I reckon it's a tamper issue You say it's wireless and goes off for no reason even when unset? Fix it instead of disabling it , although it can be taken off system it will still bell if it has an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yes, just reading tamper issues common. Although the deltabell appears to be firmly fixed so not sure how the tamper could be triggering. I reviewed the logs and didn't see any alerts for tamper, false alarms, triggers. If communication is fine between the two devices, is it possible for the siren to be going off without it recording in the panel? Is it fairly easy to replace the battery? Could I replace without setting off the tamper (enter engineers menu?) and no special pairing required if I swap out battery? The box does not have flashing lights so I assume it is a deltabell-we and needs this type of battery but I'd need to get up there and lift cover. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, OneManBand said: Yes, just reading tamper issues common. Although the deltabell appears to be firmly fixed so not sure how the tamper could be triggering. I reviewed the logs and didn't see any alerts for tamper, false alarms, triggers. If communication is fine between the two devices, is it possible for the siren to be going off without it recording in the panel? Is it fairly easy to replace the battery? Could I replace without setting off the tamper (enter engineers menu?) and no special pairing required if I swap out battery? The box does not have flashing lights so I assume it is a deltabell-we and needs this type of battery but I'd need to get up there and lift cover. Thanks Flashing.lights? Is it wireless or not? As I didn't think the deltabell wireless had comfort lights as any standard option 48 minutes ago, OneManBand said: Thanks for confirming. The unit was installed previously when I bought the property and have not taken much notice of it so need to look for a company. Would low battery cause it to alarm sporadically? I noticed this alert recently but wasn't sure if it would just stop working (fine with me for now) or I'd have issues as battery drained? What alert did you get exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 18 hours ago, al-yeti said: Flashing.lights? Is it wireless or not? As I didn't think the deltabell wireless had comfort lights as any standard option What alert did you get exactly? It is wireless. By flashing lights, I mean the led lights that are on the deltabox when the system is armed. I think those are deltabell-x and deltabell plus. Mine is the standard deltabell-we I believe. According to their page anyways here. So the main panel started warning "Siren 1 wireless low battery" a few days ago. I guess the cold weather probably caused the battery (I believe fitted 2-3 years ago). Maybe I should change the battery first. @al-yeti, I assume this is straightforward to do? Do I need to disable tamper alarm first or put the main panel in engineers mode to stop it from tripping the siren? Then swap the battery and replace cover? Thanks for replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, OneManBand said: It is wireless. By flashing lights, I mean the led lights that are on the deltabox when the system is armed. I think those are deltabell-x and deltabell plus. Mine is the standard deltabell-we I believe. According to their page anyways here. So the main panel started warning "Siren 1 wireless low battery" a few days ago. I guess the cold weather probably caused the battery (I believe fitted 2-3 years ago). Maybe I should change the battery first. @al-yeti, I assume this is straightforward to do? Do I need to disable tamper alarm first or put the main panel in engineers mode to stop it from tripping the siren? Then swap the battery and replace cover? Thanks for replies Just change the battery , put it into engineer mode open that box and get on with it , doooooooo it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Just change the battery , put it into engineer mode open that box and get on with it , doooooooo it haha indeed. ok i'll give it a go this weekend once i confirm the battery type. obviously very subjective but how much should a annual maintenance contract cost for such a system? once i look for a company, i want to ensure it isn't unreasonable in price! i was quoted by one company £15 per month and 2 or 3 year minimum term. I'd hope for that price it covers cost of replacement parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, OneManBand said: how much should a annual maintenance contract cost for such a system? once i look for a company, i want to ensure it isn't unreasonable in price! I'd expect a small radio system, fully comp with an app to a little less than your figure. However I'm in the North of England If your in the South or have proper monitoring your figure sounds okay or maybe even cheap... Running a co. is expensive, £15 per month is unlikely to make many millionaires Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, OneManBand said: haha indeed. ok i'll give it a go this weekend once i confirm the battery type. obviously very subjective but how much should a annual maintenance contract cost for such a system? once i look for a company, i want to ensure it isn't unreasonable in price! i was quoted by one company £15 per month and 2 or 3 year minimum term. I'd hope for that price it covers cost of replacement parts. Won't cover all parts be serious man But will give you peace of mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 Thanks for the help lads. Replaced battery and everything back to normal. For anyone else that comes across this, it is fairly simple to replace the battery. Get up to the siren Lift up the little plastic flap covering the screw If battery still has some juice, it will trip the tamper, else nothing will sound You can lift the PCB up and out of the housing fairly easy if want to replace on the ground (good design Pyrnoix!) Replace the battery in the white plastic housing No learning procedure required Slide the PCB housing back into the main siren housing Note, the tamper may trip (it is the little contact relay at the front). Hold it down if bothered by the noise Lower flap, put screw back on Set alarm, trip and test siren sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turanafon Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 So can the siren be deleted from the panel , and will that stop the siren tamper or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 if its not coomunicating then it wont go off again, however the siren may self actuate with a panel instruction if its tamper switch keeps operating 1 Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 18/03/2024 at 23:17, Turanafon said: So can the siren be deleted from the panel , and will that stop the siren tamper or not ? I would say it would stop the panel tamper activating but not the sounder from alarming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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