ryback Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hi folks. I acquired a second hand Visonic kit (panel + sensors) from a guy who used to have an ADT subscription. He terminated his contract with ADT and they left him the alarm. I purchased it assuming it would be simple to "reset" the panel and fit it to my needs. I sadly found it isn't. Although I can do a reset (green light = success?), I cannot log into the panel, either via USB port or AlarmInstall app. As far as I was told later, ADT visonic panels are locked and can only be accessed by ADT remotely. Understanding the forum policies of not publishing defaulting info in public forums, I would just to know if it possible (not how) to default (reset) this panel to use without paying ADT a fee, or it's simply impossible. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, ryback said: Hi folks. I acquired a second hand Visonic kit (panel + sensors) from a guy who used to have an ADT subscription. He terminated his contract with ADT and they left him the alarm. I purchased it assuming it would be simple to "reset" the panel and fit it to my needs. I sadly found it isn't. Although I can do a reset (green light = success?), I cannot log into the panel, either via USB port or AlarmInstall app. As far as I was told later, ADT visonic panels are locked and can only be accessed by ADT remotely. Understanding the forum policies of not publishing defaulting info in public forums, I would just to know if it possible (not how) to default (reset) this panel to use without paying ADT a fee, or it's simply impossible. Thanks. From what I came across none were locked unless it's new procedure from them But defaulting is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryback Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 21 hours ago, al-yeti said: From what I came across none were locked unless it's new procedure from them But defaulting is possible Sorry if this sounds silly, but what’s the difference between unlocking and defaulting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 5 hours ago, ryback said: Sorry if this sounds silly, but what’s the difference between unlocking and defaulting? Defaulting - restoring to factory settings and codes Unlocking - so defaulting can be achieved , if locked you have mess around to unlock on many panels and some never will Mostly the defaulting procedure is done incorrectly lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryback Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Understood. Thanks for the clarification. I believe I can default the panel as I run the “restore to factory setting procedure” (please no defaulting info REMOVED ) and the panel emits a green light and success tone. My problem however is that I cannot interface with the panel. This model (PM-360) has no keyboard and it only can be programmed by connecting to it. I tried: - USB (regular USB cable): Windows does not detect any device - WiFi (virtual keyboard via AlarmInstall app - local option): connection rejected Any ideas on how to connect to the panel? Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav2176 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Hi I'm an ADT installer. Some of these panels can be a bit of a pain and don't work if they are the older version. You have to either REMOVED(I can't remember which from the top of my head) and then it should beep or flash a light. You have to then search and connect to the panels wifi in your phone settings. The wifi SSID is usually the panels ID number. The password for the wifi is the panels serial number. Haven't played with one for a while but hopefully you'll have some luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Useful info Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Hang on isn't this defaulting info in public? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, datadiffusion said: Hang on isn't this defaulting info in public? What defaulting info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Is it? Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Well yes so long as it's showing in "!!..DIY Installers..!!" Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: Well yes so long as it's showing in "!!..DIY Installers..!!" So where is defaulting info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Quote You have to either hold down the plus or minus button down for 15 seconds or so (I can't remember which from the top of my head) and then it should beep or flash a light. You have to then search and connect to the panels wifi in your phone settings. The wifi SSID is usually the panels ID number. The password for the wifi is the panels serial number. Or is it just me that think's that defaulting info? Now granted that's probably easily findable elsewhere, but then so is most other defaulting info on a 9651 etc... Edited September 28, 2019 by datadiffusion Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 hours ago, datadiffusion said: Or is it just me that think's that defaulting info? Now granted that's probably easily findable elsewhere, but then so is most other defaulting info on a 9651 etc... I thought it was just how to connect WiFi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav2176 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 28/09/2019 at 11:54, datadiffusion said: Or is it just me that think's that defaulting info? Now granted that's probably easily findable elsewhere, but then so is most other defaulting info on a 9651 etc... Not defaulting info at all. I haven't told anyone how to change the codes and that process will not reset any codes. It's only to connect to the panel so you can actually use the alarm system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryback Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 26/09/2019 at 16:11, Trav2176 said: Hi I'm an ADT installer. Some of these panels can be a bit of a pain and don't work if they are the older version. You have to either hold down the plus or minus button down for 15 seconds or so (I can't remember which from the top of my head) and then it should beep or flash a light. You have to then search and connect to the panels wifi in your phone settings. The wifi SSID is usually the panels ID number. The password for the wifi is the panels serial number. Haven't played with one for a while but hopefully you'll have some luck! Thanks for your reply. I did as you indicate (pressing plus o minus buttons didn't work, instead I held "reset" for 30 seconds and in order to get the beep + green light). I connected to the panel's wifi network (ID=panel ID; password=serial number). However the Alarm Install App throws these errors: Panel is not responding. Please check your WiFi settings Could not complete operation. Connection rejected I check that the panel ID and S/N are correct. I know they are because my iPhone shows the wifi icon, which means a wifi connection was established. Seems like the panel has wifi enabled but connection via Alarm Install App disabled. Any clues on how to recycle this panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav2176 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 hours ago, ryback said: Thanks for your reply. I did as you indicate (pressing plus o minus buttons didn't work, instead I held "reset" for 30 seconds and in order to get the beep + green light). I connected to the panel's wifi network (ID=panel ID; password=serial number). However the Alarm Install App throws these errors: Panel is not responding. Please check your WiFi settings Could not complete operation. Connection rejected I check that the panel ID and S/N are correct. I know they are because my iPhone shows the wifi icon, which means a wifi connection was established. Seems like the panel has wifi enabled but connection via Alarm Install App disabled. Any clues on how to recycle this panel? Hi. Did one the other day, it’s hold both button for about 10-15 seconds. The WiFi light should blink then connect to it like you said. They are a pain in the backside to be honest. Some times they will connect no problem and others they won’t. They were originally programmed by ADT with a cable to an android tablet so we had no issues. Have you got to the stage where it’s asking for the code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryback Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 31/12/2019 at 21:52, Trav2176 said: Hi. Did one the other day, it’s hold both button for about 10-15 seconds. The WiFi light should blink then connect to it like you said. They are a pain in the backside to be honest. Some times they will connect no problem and others they won’t. They were originally programmed by ADT with a cable to an android tablet so we had no issues. Have you got to the stage where it’s asking for the code? Yes! Your instruction of pressing both buttons at the same time was the missing piece. Thank you! Now I'm struggling with the code. I tried a couple that I found on google "visonic pm-360 default installer code" but they didn't work. I'm not sure if it is allowed by this forum, but in case it is, is there any further guidance that you can give me (now my only way is to try all codes from 0000 to 9999). In theory, I have reset the panel to factory defaults by holding the RST button for 30 sec (panel responds with green light and beep) Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, ryback said: Yes! Your instruction of pressing both buttons at the same time was the missing piece. Thank you! Now I'm struggling with the code. I tried a couple that I found on google "visonic pm-360 default installer code" but they didn't work. I'm not sure if it is allowed by this forum, but in case it is, is there any further guidance that you can give me (now my only way is to try all codes from 0000 to 9999). In theory, I have reset the panel to factory defaults by holding the RST button for 30 sec (panel responds with green light and beep) Regards, Holding reset is general reset? Not panel default or codes default Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryback Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, al-yeti said: Holding reset is general reset? Not panel default or codes default Not sure if holding reset defaults installer code... seems like not. So far trying codes one at a time... 62 in 2 hours… this will take days... assuming it's a 4 digit code, if the code is longer it will be almost impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, ryback said: Not sure if holding reset defaults installer code... seems like not. So far trying codes one at a time... 62 in 2 hours… this will take days... assuming it's a 4 digit code, if the code is longer it will be almost impossible You in I.T? As in what you do for a living 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Should have it nailed if you do it fulltime for around 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryback Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 17 hours ago, al-yeti said: You in I.T? As in what you do for a living I work in IT related tasks. I'm tech-savvy. I was thinking of writing a program to brute-force test all the codes, but it's too much work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 9 hours ago, ryback said: I work in IT related tasks. I'm tech-savvy. I was thinking of writing a program to brute-force test all the codes, but it's too much work In that case my advise to you , is take it on the chin and put this panel in bin or back on eBay Buy a new alarm like an enforcer which probably right up your street being nice DIY panel to an extent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I think the main sentiment was not to waste time on a duffer rather than a specific recommendation TBF Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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