Davawirral Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Hi. We have recently taken over a Manor home and in one of the rooms is where the guns are stored. However every time we open the gun safe to get it fitted out for our equipment the alarm keeps going off even though we though the alarm is not set it's becoming a pain now!!! Could anyone please advise me what I am doing wrong? I will try and insert some pictures. Edited August 13, 2019 by Davawirral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 You need a key for the zone omit unit above. Once you have it omit the zone (it will buzz) open the safe, close the safe and un-omit the zone. 1 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 As above the devices are on 24 hour alarm, you need to use the key to disable the alarm first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davawirral Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 I've found the key and turned it on the box above the gun safe but when I open the gun safe door it still goes off and when we silence it at the keypad in the office it displays Gun Safe Door. Surely there must be a way around it I need to store the guns in the safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davawirral Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Davawirral said: I've found the key and turned it on the box above the gun safe but when I open the gun safe door it still goes off and when we silence it at the keypad in the office it displays Gun Safe Door. Surely there must be a way around it as its apart of the police licence to ensure all guns are kept in a secure lockable safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Does the omit unit buzz when you turn the key? You may need a code for it also/or 1 Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davawirral Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, norman said: Does the omit unit buzz when you turn the key? You may need a code for it also/or No it. Doesn't make any noisy which ever way I turn the key the alarm still goes off. The only noise it makes is if you press any of the numbers!!! 2 hours ago, Davawirral said: I've found the key and turned it on the box above the gun safe but when I open the gun safe door it still goes off and when we silence it at the keypad in the office it displays Gun Safe Door. Surely there must be a way around it as its apart of the police licence to ensure all guns are kept in a secure lockable safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Davawirral said: No it. Doesn't make any noisy which ever way I turn the key the alarm still goes off. The only noise it makes is if you press any of the numbers!!! Call me crazy... Did you get in touch with the installer / maintainer of the security system & ask them to train you on how to use the alarm correctly ? Maybe when they undertake the maintenance visit, update the kekoholder ect... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, MrHappy said: Call me crazy... Did you get in touch with the installer / maintainer of the security system & ask them to train you on how to use the alarm correctly ? Maybe when they undertake the maintenance visit, update the kekoholder ect... That will cost money tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davawirral Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, MrHappy said: Call me crazy... Did you get in touch with the installer / maintainer of the security system & ask them to train you on how to use the alarm correctly ? Maybe when they undertake the maintenance visit, update the kekoholder ect... It was already installed when we took over the building we have all the keys to the safes and the alarm unit above the gun safe and we also have some key fobs for the keypads by the front door and office and landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, al-yeti said: That will cost money tho? To be fair if he is storing guns its probably a Police requirement that the system is monitored and maintained. We look after quite a few sites with gun safes I cant think of one that's not G5 monitored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Davawirral said: It was already installed when we took over the building we have all the keys to the safes and the alarm unit above the gun safe and we also have some key fobs for the keypads by the front door and office and landing. The installer will still know the system and can provide a service contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, PeterJames said: To be fair if he is storing guns its probably a Police requirement that the system is monitored and maintained. We look after quite a few sites with gun safes I cant think of one that's not G5 monitored. I was taking the Mick man , he's here because it will cost money for an installer to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, al-yeti said: I was taking the Mick man , he's here because it will cost money for an installer to come I doubt that, people that have guns are sensible, and would not take any risk. You can kill someone with a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Also his insurance would be invalid and he could lose his gun license if the guns are not suitably protected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Alarm isn't a must for guns I thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, al-yeti said: Alarm isn't a must for guns I thought? Depends on the requirements set out when the license was issued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, PeterJames said: Depends on the requirements set out when the license was issued So as above unlikely in this case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, al-yeti said: So as above unlikely in this case Not sure how you come to that conclusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davawirral Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 I'm going to contact the original installer as I want to keep the monitoring which I think is something called redcare as there is a little telephone thing that says BT Redcare. I just don't understand why it keeps going off when I open the safe doors when the rest of the alarm in the building is off. It's confusing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 that part of the alarm is active all the time unless you isolate it temporarily with the shunt module. Maybe concern about little ones finding a key and getting to them Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Davawirral said: I'm going to contact the original installer as I want to keep the monitoring which I think is something called redcare as there is a little telephone thing that says BT Redcare. I just don't understand why it keeps going off when I open the safe doors when the rest of the alarm in the building is off. It's confusing! Somebody spent £100's to put the 24hr circuits on the gun cabinet, The little thing marked redcare is probably just a block terminal... The alarm is always working... there's set & unset but no off Edited August 14, 2019 by MrHappy Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davawirral Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Is the white thing on the door of the safe apart of the alarm it just says Honey well? Cheers for all your help guys hopefully someone will come out and sort it out tomorrow then we can make sure the keys are locked away aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I would assume its a limpet Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davawirral Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 No idea what that is but guys hopeful have it sorted by tomorrow with a little luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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