james.wilson Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Upload a pic of the panel, did it have 16 on board or 8 Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Reddwarf4ever said: if it had ACE would I then have a Fob ? Which I don’t have..... Not a fob in the modern sense, it was Ir based and obsolete now, unique to gardtec. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 And didn't work that well iirc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 09/07/2019 at 16:20, al-yeti said: What happened to paying someone to do this? Come on al: You don't believe in Witches, Wizards and Goblins so why would you have believed that ?. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddwarf4ever Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Hello removing teh smoke alarms in the program didn’t work well.....the wiring removal at the panel involves resistors , so,out of my comfort zone. so I have put my hands up and waiting two estimates, may go for justbthis or an upgrade depending on the quote . i do a lot of DIY myself, but this has defeated me.....thanks for all the help and advice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddwarf4ever Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) Well waited over a week for the estimates and one finally materialised .......comes in at over £1000 this is to install a new control panel two keypads and two bell boxes......all wiring in place and re-using existing 8 PIRs and 3 contacts. this is too expensive for me......been told it’s for an Eaton, Scantronic ION system had a quick look and it seems this is a bit OTT for me, especially as trying to do on a budget. 40 Zones ??? i know I have 11 at the moment, but can reduce PIRs to get Down to 5 PIRs and 3 contacts, so an 8 Zone would be suitable. I know I have been told before I can’t chose the alarm system I want, as the installer will have a preference, but the Installer isn’t paying for it I am.....I would not like it if a car salesman could insist on what car I buy, or isn’t this a fair analogy ? so taking aside the installers preference, what’s my best choice to replace the Gardtec 840 wired system, replacing only the control panel 2 keypads and 2 bell boxes ? I would like to be able to configure / tweak the program, at some future time if I needed to. But don’t really need colour LCD etc.....Do I ? need some help please.......I could still go for just paying to remove the smokes, approx £100 I am told, but the alarm exit keypad occasionally displays “system in use” unless I wait 5 seconds after entering the exit code and pressing Exit now.....hasn’t happened once seen I adopted this method, BUT the control panel has a frigged PSU as the original failed......so all is not happy currently.........need to make a decision..... Edited July 23, 2019 by Reddwarf4ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) Hope you were sitting down when you read that. If your looking to downsize the system, maybe you could look at something like a Pyronix euro mini. That would give you 10 zones using Double end of line wiring. I've installed several of these & so far found them to be a good reliable panel, that doesn't break the bank. Unfortunately your a bit too far away for me to offer to come and fit one for you. Edited July 23, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Reddwarf4ever said: Well waited over a week for the estimates and one finally materialised .......comes in at over £1000 this is to install a new control panel two keypads and two bell boxes......all wiring in place and re-using existing 8 PIRs and 3 contacts. this is too expensive for me......been told it’s for an Eaton, Scantronic ION system had a quick look and it seems this is a bit OTT for me, especially as trying to do on a budget. 40 Zones ??? i know I have 11 at the moment, but can reduce PIRs to get Down to 5 PIRs and 3 contacts, so an 8 Zone would be suitable. I know I have been told before I can’t chose the alarm system I want, as the installer will have a preference, but the Installer isn’t paying for it I am.....I would not like it if a car salesman could insist on what car I buy, or isn’t this a fair analogy ? so taking aside the installers preference, what’s my best choice to replace the Gardtec 840 wired system, replacing only the control panel 2 keypads and 2 bell boxes ? I would like to be able to configure / tweak the program, at some future time if I needed to. But don’t really need colour LCD etc.....Do I ? need some help please.......I could still go for just paying to remove the smokes, approx £100 I am told, but the alarm exit keypad occasionally displays “system in use” unless I wait 5 seconds after entering the exit code and pressing Exit now.....hasn’t happened once seen I adopted this method, BUT the control panel has a frigged PSU as the original failed......so all is not happy currently.........need to make a decision..... Buy whatever you want , a house basher might charge you £450 to swap over whatever you want with no warranty or call backs..... Unless you pay callouts of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Reddwarf4ever said: had a quick look and it seems this is a bit OTT for me, especially as trying to do on a budget. 40 Zones ??? I assume you mean it is a '40 zone panel'? This doesn't mean you need to use all the zones... It's actually only a ten zone panel (wired) plus 30 zone (wireless) out of the box, and in fact it's an 80 zone maximum panel anyway - they just carried over the '40' model number from the previous version, which was 16 on board and 24 wireless Assuming it is a 40H that is. If it is you'll be getting free, app based monitoring for life so I'd say fair quote based on the number of zones, for Essex. (If you did want to go down to 8 zones, if it was me quoting I personally would still be quoting the 10 zone 40H by the way, as it is still the most suitable panel (that I sell).) Edited July 23, 2019 by datadiffusion Completely forgot about the wireless bits! Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddwarf4ever Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Specialist said: Hope you were sitting down when you read that. If your looking to downsize the system, maybe you could look at something like a Pyronix euro mini. That would give you 10 zones using Double end of line wiring. I've installed several of these & so far found them to be a good reliable panel, that doesn't break the bank. Unfortunately your a bit too far away for me to offer to come and fit one for you. Isn't the Pyronix euro mini@ wireless system ..? Need a wired system ....... assuming the Pyronix euro mini is a wired system, what should I expect to pay to fit the panel 2 keypads and 2 bellboxes to an existing wired system using existing PIRs and contacts thanks Edited July 23, 2019 by Reddwarf4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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