Specialist Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) That goes for old alarm engineers too mate (Not that I'm saying Your old, you understand) Edited June 4, 2019 by Specialist 1 Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezthomp Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Specialist said: The panel won't have power. The external sounder will, via it's own battery. It's the loss of power from the panel to the sounder that causes it to go into alarm. Until you reconnect the battery or apply mains power to the panel, you won't be able to silence the alarm. When all power is removed from the panel the sounder should sound for no more than 15 to 20 minutes, your best option would be to have someone by the keypad to enter the code and silence the alarm as soon as you reconnect the battery. Currently the alarm isn't going off, i just want to get the lights back on the panel and back to the normal working condition. I'm just trying to determine how to deal with the various scenarios. Worse case being i turn off power the alarm goes on and i just cannot turn it off again. Plan is to turn power off, open CPU, put my code in the panel and hope the alarm goes off, i can then see the battery i need and replace. I'm just not 100% on what to do if my code doesn't work. Edited June 4, 2019 by jezthomp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Specialist said: That goes for old alarm engineers too mate (Not that I'm saying Your old, you understand) Hardcore lol 2 minutes ago, jezthomp said: Currently the alarm isn't going off, i just want to get the lights back on the panel and back to the normal working condition. I'm just trying to determine how to deal with the various scenarios. Worse case being i turn off power the alarm goes on and i just cannot turn it off again. Plan is to turn power off, open CPU, put my code in the panel and hope the alarm goes off, i can then see the battery i need and replace. I'm just not 100% on what to do if my code doesn't work. Depends how much you value your security , I would scrap it and get new system in , although many wait for there CAMBELT to snap aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) Hi: If you replace the battery and get a tamper that your code won't reset, you have a few options. 1) Call the original installer to reset for you. 2) Call another Installer to crash and reprogramme the alarm for you, while replacing the battery. Please don't ask how to crash the panel as it's against our rules to give that information. 3) Do as al-yeti suggests and have a new panel installed. Edited June 4, 2019 by Specialist Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezthomp Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Specialist said: Hi: If you replace the battery and get a tamper that your code won't reset, you have a few options. 1) Call the original installer to reset for you. 2) Call another Installer to crash and reset the alarm for you, please don't ask how to crash the panel as it's against our rules to give that information. We're having the company that fitted(i think)/serviced it come on Thursday. They apparently serviced it in February, but god knows if they replaced the battery or not! Would happily have a new alarm fitted but don't fancy the whole house being re-wired, the current wiring is fine its just obviously an older system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 it shouldn't need rewiring assuming it was installed correctly. A company should test the battery at service and replace at 3-5 years anyway. Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Alarm systems need regular maintenance to avoid issues like this, SLA batteries have an expected life of 4 years for good quality ones. I would suggest you have the system serviced by the installer. Alternatively if you are feeling competent to DIY, it would be sensible to check the voltage and charging rate with a multimeter, when you replace the battery otherwise you will be back up there again next power cut. It is up to you if you want to isolate the mains before opening the cover, most engineers would not but they would also be unlikely to poke there fingers near the mains terminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 It may be too late if you have not replaced the battery when it was due you may well find that the charging circuit is knackered anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, jezthomp said: Currently the alarm isn't going off, i just want to get the lights back on the panel and back to the normal working condition. I'm just trying to determine how to deal with the various scenarios. Worse case being i turn off power the alarm goes on and i just cannot turn it off again. This very rarely, if ever happens. Plan is to turn power off, open CPU, put my code in the panel and hope the alarm goes off, i can then see the battery i need and replace. The battery you need to replace is the one inside the panel, with the one you pictured. Absolutely no need to open the panel to look at it first. If your unsure of what to do, you may be better off calling in a local Installer. Quote Customers Love us, Intruders Hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 If it's well looked after it's unlikely to need replacing. Either way the wires could be reused if in good condition. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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