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Replacement for gardtec 840 alarm

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Hello

i think the alarm panel or keypads have started developing a fault, whereby occasionally the max in exit keypad displays system in use when the exit code is set, have to wait 20-30 seconds for it to clear, never happens with the other keypad, but thismonly used for part setting.

 

so wish to keep all wired PIR and smokes for contacts, but replace the panel, two keypads and two external sounders...

 

here is a list of of what I have, wonder if there are obvious best choices for replacing panel sounders and keypads, thanks

 

1- front door contact

2- kitchen PIR

3- Lounge room PIR 

4- Game room PIR

5- Garage door contact

6- Garage internal contact

7- store room PIR

8- Master bed PIR

9- 3rd bed PIR

10- 2nd bed PIR

11- Landing PIR

12- Hall smoke

13- Game room smoke

14- Lounge & Master bed smoke

15- Bedrooms 2 & 3 smoke

16- Landing & store room smoke

17- Garage control panel

18- Hall & landing keypads

19- Landing sounder

20- front & rear sounders

 

 

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To be honest a panel for that size system would be a Professional panel & would be better being Installed, Programmed and tested by a skilled alarm engineer. It really isn't in any way a DIY job.

You would be best contacting a couple of good local installers for prices.

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Can’t see any way of editing my post, but I purposely didn’t put this in DIY, for the simple reason I don’t intend doing it myself, just wanted some equipment advice.

 

Have decided to do away with all the smoke alarms, as I a, told they only last 7 years and most are now over 16 years old....will replace with 3 or 4 standalone smoke alarms.  Also am told by an enquiry I made that

 

A Pyronix  Euro 46 8 zone control panel., a euro zem8 8 zone wired expander  & two Pyronix Euro keypads, & a  Pyronix delta bell.

 

been also told that to have TWO external sounders would require an extra PSU, whereas my gardtec 840 see,S t accept two easily., so wonder wh I can’t have two, a PSU shouldn’t be too expensive should it?

 

not clear if this is my cheapest option to replace the specified components I.e. two kepypads alarm panel and an external alarm, all PIRs and door contacts to remain.

 

One other enquiry suggested a scantronic  hybrid panel, which as. I Understand has Wi-fi included and some wireless capability also, not sure yet if this requires extra modules or not, or if the Pyronix is my best choice

 

thanks

 

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Sorry mate, but if you don't plan on doing it yourself then why are you asking about panels etc ?

Each Installer will have their own preferred brand of panels and will happily tell you what is needed for the job, you'll rarely find an installer that will fit customer specified panels. I certainly wouldn't.

As I already said, contact some local installers and discuss with them.

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Seriously, I can’t believe why you are so unwilling to help me, if you have nothing to suggest, then with respect why are you replying to my  post ?

 

lets say installer 1 says alarm system A are the best ever, 

then installer 2 says alarm system B are the best, then installer 3 says alarm system C is the best ever, they ALl have their reasons.

 

as a homeowner I have to simply guess which is the best, so my idea, as daft as you think it is, was to ask people ‘ in the know ‘ which is the best route and if one of my installers selects that, then end of problem, if no one does I can ask them to compare their choice with the forum recommendation......seemed a good plan.....guess without any further replies I will have to research elsewhere, just wonder the point of a forum that won’t offer advice.... 

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31 minutes ago, Reddwarf4ever said:

Seriously, I can’t believe why you are so unwilling to help me, if you have nothing to suggest, then with respect why are you replying to my  post ?

 

lets say installer 1 says alarm system A are the best ever, 

then installer 2 says alarm system B are the best, then installer 3 says alarm system C is the best ever, they ALl have their reasons.

 

as a homeowner I have to simply guess which is the best, so my idea, as daft as you think it is, was to ask people ‘ in the know ‘ which is the best route and if one of my installers selects that, then end of problem, if no one does I can ask them to compare their choice with the forum recommendation......seemed a good plan.....guess without any further replies I will have to research elsewhere, just wonder the point of a forum that won’t offer advice.... 

I didn't say I was unwilling to help, I gave you advice "Call a local Installer" you seem to miss the point.

Your asking for advice on what panel is best, because local installers will give you different advice.

So will we, we all have our preferred equipment. Whether that be Honeywell, Pyronix, Texecom etc. So your really in the same boat.

If you ask most professional installers to compare what they specified with what someone on a forum has suggested, they'll walk out the door.

 

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20 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

It's not as simple as that. 

Think of the question, what's the best car? 

To extend, any panel pretty much will do work with your sensors. But if you wanted to know a recommendation as to the easiest to use panel that can also do xy and z etc etc

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What’s the point of this forum, if you say no point in giving advice because everyone will have their own preferences....

 

but it isn’t THAT the whole point, healthy discussion.

 

thanks anyway, will research elsewhere........

46 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

It's not as simple as that. 

Think of the question, what's the best car? 

That’s what discussion means, we discuss weigh up pros and cons......maybe just let google decide for me LOL

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The point of this forum is that we help and advise people, which if you care to read the forum we have done for thousands of people over the years.

You were given the advice you asked for, as you have been whenever you've asked a question. Unfortunately that doesn't suit what you want to hear.

If you care to do a forum Search, you'll find that your questions have been answered many times in the past.

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8 minutes ago, james.wilson said:

ok vanderbilt spc

Nice choice B)).

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11 hours ago, Reddwarf4ever said:

Can’t see any way of editing my post, but I purposely didn’t put this in DIY, for the simple reason I don’t intend doing it myself, just wanted some equipment advice.

 

Have decided to do away with all the smoke alarms, as I a, told they only last 7 years and most are now over 16 years old....will replace with 3 or 4 standalone smoke alarms.  Also am told by an enquiry I made that

 

A Pyronix  Euro 46 8 zone control panel., a euro zem8 8 zone wired expander  & two Pyronix Euro keypads, & a  Pyronix delta bell.

 

been also told that to have TWO external sounders would require an extra PSU, whereas my gardtec 840 see,S t accept two easily., so wonder wh I can’t have two, a PSU shouldn’t be too expensive should it?

 

not clear if this is my cheapest option to replace the specified components I.e. two kepypads alarm panel and an external alarm, all PIRs and door contacts to remain.

 

One other enquiry suggested a scantronic  hybrid panel, which as. I Understand has Wi-fi included and some wireless capability also, not sure yet if this requires extra modules or not, or if the Pyronix is my best choice

 

thanks

 

You would have to look at the stand alone smoke alarms sell by date aswell

 

One bell will be in sab mode other bell I'm scb mode

 

scaMtronic only good for basic alarm , many systems have wireless though 

 

Texecom

Hkc 

 

Don't think the Vanderbilt will work for you if you need good wireless options

 

Keeping existing contacts and pirs , depends how well they are working but after 17uears why you want to keep them?

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