Galaxy Flex 20 with RF & RIO

[al-yeti]

1 hour ago, Nova-Security said:

Not sure on the flex but 12 zones on the panel ? add an RF module doesn't that take 8 up making 20 and your panel is a flex 20 

I thought you could do RF on all the zones like the g2 , your thinking dimension?

[RevolvingSteve]

1 hour ago, Nova-Security said:

so what are you RF zones numbers 1021 to 1028 ?

 

I can see these zones in the display zones menu (Menu 21):

 

1001 > 1004

1011 > 1018

1021 > 1028

 

I know 1001 through 1018 are the Main board, can't see if the 1021> Zones are the RF or the RIO, I expected the address of the RIO & RF to dictate the zones like this:

 

RF Module (Address 5) : 105x

RIO Unit (Address 3) : 103x

 

But its more likely I have misunderstood the manual.

Edited February 24, 2019 by RevolvingSteve

[RevolvingSteve]

OK, so further info:

 

If I use menu 52.1 (Program Zones > Zones) I see:

1001 > 1004

1011 > 1018

1021 > 1028

 

If I go into 52.2 (Program Zones > RF Zones)  I see:

1021 > 1028

 

Not sure if there is a better menu to view this.

[Nova-Security]

11 hours ago, al-yeti said:

I thought you could do RF on all the zones like the g2 , your thinking dimension?

 

Only installed one flex, use G3 all the time

[GalaxyGuy]

The RF portal can have up to three virtual Rio addresses. They are not the same as the physical bus address of the portal.  The virtual Rio addresses are in menu 56.60.1

 

The last time I looked at this, the Flex would not allow the portal to coexist with the Rio on an fx20 in the way that was allowed on the older g2-20 panels. The panel responded differently depending on which module was added first (Rio or portal).

 

IfI get a minute, I will test that this is still the case at the latest Flex version 3.50.

[al-yeti]

1 hour ago, GalaxyGuy said:

 

The last time I looked at this, the Flex would not allow the portal to coexist with the Rio on an fx20 in the way that was allowed on the older g2-20 panels. The panel responded differently depending on which module was added first (Rio or portal).

 

Wonder why they called it flex , not very flexible then 

[RevolvingSteve]

5 hours ago, GalaxyGuy said:

The RF portal can have up to three virtual Rio addresses. They are not the same as the physical bus address of the portal.  The virtual Rio addresses are in menu 56.60.1

 

The last time I looked at this, the Flex would not allow the portal to coexist with the Rio on an fx20 in the way that was allowed on the older g2-20 panels. The panel responded differently depending on which module was added first (Rio or portal).

 

IfI get a minute, I will test that this is still the case at the latest Flex version 3.50.

 

No surprise I have managed to end up with the complicated version LOL

 

OK, very grateful if you do get time. I don't actually need the RF portal yet (although I will) so is there a way to remove the RF Portal to allow the RIO to be picked up whilst sorting out if there is a solution?

3 hours ago, al-yeti said:

Wonder why they called it flex , not very flexible then 

 

Agreed!

[GalaxyGuy]

Just remove the portal and scan devices in menu 72 - * to delete. Then scan again to find the RIO.

 

I think the intent is to stop zone expansion beyond the 20 zone limit of the panel, but you should be able to expand to 20 zones max and have any of the 20 hardwired or wireless. It seems that this may not be an option with the FX20 and you can only have 12 hardwired and a possible 20 wireless. If you upgrade to an FX50 or FX100, you can have a number of RIO's fitted.

 

As I said, I thought that this was a bug in the early Flex and I never went back to see if it was fixed in the newer models, as I only use the FX100+ now anyway.

[RevolvingSteve]

8 hours ago, GalaxyGuy said:

Just remove the portal and scan devices in menu 72 - * to delete. Then scan again to find the RIO.

Is then, 72, then *? doesn't seem to do anything.

 

8 hours ago, GalaxyGuy said:

I think the intent is to stop zone expansion beyond the 20 zone limit of the panel, but you should be able to expand to 20 zones max and have any of the 20 hardwired or wireless. It seems that this may not be an option with the FX20 and you can only have 12 hardwired and a possible 20 wireless. If you upgrade to an FX50 or FX100, you can have a number of RIO's fitted.

 

Does the FX50 fit in the same housing?

 

8 hours ago, GalaxyGuy said:

As I said, I thought that this was a bug in the early Flex and I never went back to see if it was fixed in the newer models, as I only use the FX100+ now anyway.

 

Is it just the zone qty that's different between the models?

[GalaxyGuy]

59 minutes ago, RevolvingSteve said:

Is then, 72, then *? doesn't seem to do anything.

 

The process is:

1. Start the Auto-learn mode in menu 72.

2. Remove the device from the data bus (for example disconnect the module).

3. Exit from the Auto-learn mode and confirm the address of the device removed (using *).

4. Enter Auto-learn mode once more.

 

59 minutes ago, RevolvingSteve said:

 

Does the FX50 fit in the same housing?

 

 

Is it just the zone qty that's different between the models?

 

Yes, the boards across the range are the same form. Only different between the metal case and plastic case boards.

 

The Flex+ supports grade 3.  The 50 and 100 series panels support more users, zones, outputs, bigger event and access logs, schedules, keypads and links.