Bananaman Eric Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Good evening all, I'v joined to seek advice and info on going self employed and becoming a sub contractor. Im currently working in a small firm as a Service engineer/days works. My question is, If I get my own van/insurance etc Do companies seek for the same role (days/service engineers) ? Is there any good Agency that can provide work ? Regards Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, Bananaman Eric said: Good evening all, I'v joined to seek advice and info on going self employed and becoming a sub contractor. Im currently working in a small firm as a Service engineer/days works. My question is, If I get my own van/insurance etc Do companies seek for the same role (days/service engineers) ? Is there any good Agency that can provide work ? Regards Eric What is your skill, Intruder ? And what does your current employer do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 If you want to sub you need to be able install, no-one needs a subbie service engineer. They have to have employed service engineers for the call outs. If you cant install you have no chance of getting any work sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Agency? Forget it,if you haven't built up a rep in the industry and have plenty of contacts I'd stay where you are,subby rates are not that great so you will be up against plenty of lads who are quick and know the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Eric Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, PeterJames said: If you want to sub you need to be able install, no-one needs a subbie service engineer. They have to have employed service engineers for the call outs. If you cant install you have no chance of getting any work sorry This the answer I needed. I can install alarms and cameras no problem, I just haven't had a install role. So from your answer I guess I need to get a install role and get more experience before going out. I do my own bits at the weekend so I know I more the capable but on a larger scale I'm not sure? Thanks Edited August 16, 2018 by Bananaman Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Eric Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, al-yeti said: What is your skill, Intruder ? And what does your current employer do? Sorry, Intruder alarms and CCTV is my best skill. Scantronic,menviers,galaxy,texecom, Hik vision,concept pro to name a few. Door access, only touched net2 plus, abit of Videx. As above the company does. I service the odd fire alarm panels. 19 hours ago, goncall said: Agency? Forget it,if you haven't built up a rep in the industry and have plenty of contacts I'd stay where you are,subby rates are not that great so you will be up against plenty of lads who are quick and know the game Thanks mate, i kinda new where I am now at this time might be tough out there. Edited August 16, 2018 by Bananaman Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bananaman Eric said: Sorry, Intruder alarms and CCTV is my best skill. Hik vision, No skill with Hikvision thats why its so popular, its all plug and play. Do you know how to back-focus a camera? ( i dont mean focus I mean back-focus) Do you know what any of the stuff in the OSD is for like what BLC stands for or HLC stands for, shutter speeds? Very few people installing cameras nowadays have any idea on what settings to use, Hik have taken all the skill away and now a ten year old can claim to be a CCTV expert 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, PeterJames said: No skill with Hikvision thats why its so popular, its all plug and play. Do you know how to back-focus a camera? Ah the good old days, diagnosing intermittent issues up a pole in the rain, measuring for peak and sync on cameras that actually had pots to adjust them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Resoldering the leads on the lens plug as they where and different pinout. ..and which muppet bought CS lenses for these C cameras.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: ..and which muppet bought CS lenses for these C cameras.. Got a load of the spacing rings if you stuck, forgot now which way round it is. 1 Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, Bananaman Eric said: This the answer I needed. I can install alarms and cameras no problem, I just haven't had a install role. So from your answer I guess I need to get a install role and get more experience before going out. I do my own bits at the weekend so I know I more the capable but on a larger scale I'm not sure? Thanks Probably best to stick that ,and not do anything that might be conflict of interest with your employer, assuming they only do fire ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Or behind a multiplexer with your scope checking you have 1v p to p. I always found it terribly clever how the mplexer encoded and decoded onto a vhs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, PeterJames said: behind a multiplexer with your scope checking you have 1v p to p 28 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: measuring for peak and sync I found specific testers much easier to use on site have a BBV and a Ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, sixwheeledbeast said: I found specific testers much easier to use on site have a BBV and a Ranger. My old boss wouldnt even by a hand held scope, mind you £300 was a weeks wages back then, I had to take a full size one to site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-Security Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, PeterJames said: Or behind a multiplexer with your scope checking you have 1v p to p. I always found it terribly clever how the mplexer encoded and decoded onto a vhs. And the sync, was it 0.3v Used to play pool / drink in the pub against one of the men that came up with the multiplexer Quote www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goncall Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, PeterJames said: No skill with Hikvision thats why its so popular, its all plug and play. Do you know how to back-focus a camera? ( i dont mean focus I mean back-focus) Do you know what any of the stuff in the OSD is for like what BLC stands for or HLC stands for, shutter speeds? Very few people installing cameras nowadays have any idea on what settings to use, Hik have taken all the skill away and now a ten year old can claim to be a CCTV expert He doesn't need too,that's like asking him to snap wire a door 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Beat me to it, we're dinosaurs in comparison with skills that are no longer needed, don't knock plug and play in a few years home security will be wireless plug and play interconnected to your Alexa... Oh... Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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