Gardtec 800 having problems

[datadiffusion]

Exactly, not worth the time and effort, bin it. Nothing that can't be handled by a Euro mini or 9561 etc... and an inexpensive additional keypad.

[PeterJames]

Are you sure its an 800? The keypad looks too late for an 800 it could be an 872 but it looks more 595 

[datadiffusion]

Pretty sure we had a small number of 800s with those RKPs - I remember initially it was the keypad PCB only which you either fitted directly into the end station or bought a case for.

Can't remember when the newer style keypad launched. We mainly fitted the 816 anyway - I can't remember when the 800 itself was withdrawn.

Edited December 8, 2017 by datadiffusion

[Steve Jones]

This was the original keypad, the control panel was fitted in 2003 as an upgrade to a system originally installed in 1990

 

 

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Hello

 

I agree I should replace my ageing gardtec 800 (840 I think) alarm system, it has several PIR’s and smoke detectors connected, has individual tamper connections,  still works fine, but want to upgrade it, preferably to a up to date gardtec system, someone suggested a 600 ??

dont need wireless, as everything currently wired

 

1-which current system is the most compatable, 2 keypads plus a control  panel. Hopefully a new gardtec system will be have a similar wiring layout ?

2-the new systems apparently have a single one wire tamper circuit, so I am advised, is this suitable to connect to a modern panel ? Will it require any mods ?

3- my electrician friend is happy to install this for me, having done several already, I don’t require it to be contract maintained, so can I buy the gardtec keypads and panel myself

 

thanks

[sixwheeledbeast]

I would suggest you let your "electrician friend" choose a panel he is competent with if that's who is doing the work.

Not sure who told you about one wire tamper, but I assume they have got confused with EOL or something.

 

[Steve Jones]

agreed, but I thought I could possibly get some answers on this forum....

 

he he actually asked me to enquire for ideas, he doesn’t buy the equipment, just installs it.....so answers to my questions would really help...

 

so from your comment I assume the tamper method hasnt changed, individual tamper on each sensor, the  panel, keypad etc...

 

thanks

[al-yeti]

No, detectors on some panels must be eol 

 

But any panel could be made to work

[al-yeti]

 

G2-20 would do

[Steve Jones]

7 hours ago, al-yeti said:

 

G2-20 would do

Thank you, is the most compatable  panel to replace mine..?

 

thanks

[sixwheeledbeast]

1 hour ago, Steve Jones said:

Thank you, is the most compatable  panel to replace mine..?

 

Any modern panel can be made "compatible" but many panels of that size will not be a drop in replacement.

A G2-20 would require you to EOL all the devices for example.

You would need a DP compatible panel if you didn't want to replace all the sensors/fit EOL's

 

There are many types of tamper protection, on something that you are DIYing its not relevant what type as long as it works IMO.

Many poorly installed jobs seem to ditch the tamper completely, link it out or wire it incorrectly in a non-functional way.

 

It's more likely to be the programming you will stumble on, this is why you should use kit your installer is competent with, or get someone in who is.