Joe Doherty Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Got a customer who has a electric shutter operated via rocker switch concerned if intruder gets in through roof as easy access. They can just open up from inside, could I isolate the inside switch through a relay on the Intruder Set Output, Where do you stand on trapping "intruder" inside seems a very grey area ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 id provide a relay for set status then let the shutter people wire it in Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 A key switch for the shutter is £15... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Doherty Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Keyswitch on outside, switch on inside it's rented so they don't want to start altering much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Joe Doherty said: Got a customer who has a electric shutter operated via rocker switch concerned if intruder gets in through roof as easy access. They can just open up from inside, could I isolate the inside switch through a relay on the Intruder Set Output, Where do you stand on trapping "intruder" inside seems a very grey area ? Better detection near roof and master blaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Joe Doherty said: Keyswitch on outside, switch on inside it's rented so they don't want to start altering much. so don't then would be my take Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simlec Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 14 hours ago, Joe Doherty said: Got a customer who has a electric shutter operated via rocker switch concerned if intruder gets in through roof as easy access. They can just open up from inside, could I isolate the inside switch through a relay on the Intruder Set Output, Where do you stand on trapping "intruder" inside seems a very grey area ? Has the roller shutter not got manual chain override? I cant see a problem with disabling the electrical side of the shutter, give the Police more time to get there. We have a unit that was done over last year and the insurance company have requested a padlock from floor to shutter and the manual chain to stop the scumbags opening it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBrad Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 We used to do this on a National companies stores main entrance shutter. When system was set the shutter controls didn't work. System was Armed & Disarmed external via Max reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 14/07/2017 at 21:49, Joe Doherty said: Where do you stand on trapping "intruder" inside seems a very grey area ? Intruder has gained access by circumventing a locked door - so if door remains locked, nil problemo. I agree that it could be a grey area if, say, intruder was able to walk into somewhere without the use of tools or equipment then not be able to leave, i.e an open gate into a car sales forecourt that then locked itself. That said it never seemed to be an issue with those pushbutton-to-exit-if-you-haven't-got-a-shotgun bank lobbies that seemed popular circa 2000 but now are usually swept away at refurb time. Nationwide seemed to use them a lot? Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, datadiffusion said: Intruder has gained access by circumventing a locked door - so if door remains locked, nil problemo. I agree that it could be a grey area if, say, intruder was able to walk into somewhere without the use of tools or equipment then not be able to leave, i.e an open gate into a car sales forecourt that then locked itself. That said it never seemed to be an issue with those pushbutton-to-exit-if-you-haven't-got-a-shotgun bank lobbies that seemed popular circa 2000 but now are usually swept away at refurb time. Nationwide seemed to use them a lot? Glow in the dark exit, voice box warning of imminent gas release (really a smoke cloak) He will run fot it , cage otherside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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