Kingsley Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Hey We have, what I believe to be, a scantronic 9800. It hasn't worked for a number of years, so a few months ago I got an engineer out to fix. It had bf, tr and rr errors on it. i thought it would just need a new battery, but the engineer came out and said the board was dead and would need replacing...and charged £150 for the privilege, along with a quote of £400 to install a new board, battery keypad and siren. ive not looked into it further since, but thought I'd have a play around. I opened up with control box and the fuse had been removed, and there is no battery inside, so I assume to engineer must have taken it with him! With the fuse in and no battery, the keypad doesn't display anything, but it will beep when buttons are pressed. 2 yellow lights come on at the top of the keypad. Anyway, I'm not sure what to do now. I could buy a new battery, put that in and see what happens, however I suppose I should trust the engineer and believe that the board is dead. looking online, you can buy a 9800 for £35 or so, but as it's so old that's probably not worthwhile, plus it would need re wiring and re programmming. So, if I replace it..is there a wired model that could be done DIY? I don't think it's an extensive system, 4 PIRs, 2 smoke detectors a siren and an internal sounder. If not DIY, what alarm system is recommended? I'd quite like one with smart functionalities if such exist, such as arming from smartphones etc. Sorry for for the long post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datadiffusion Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 It more than likely needs a new EEPROM chip, that is probably the only thing wrong with the board. Its the only chip in a socket on the PCB. However... Personally I would upgrade panel and keypad to something like a Scantronic 9651 and get all the benefits of fob operation and an Lcd keypad. However 2... If your existing system is a 9800, the rest of the system probably needs updating too, especially if there have been any changes to the construction and use of the property since installation. Quote So, I've decided to take my work back underground.... to stop it falling into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Would suggest you get a few quotes to upgrade your system, listen what they have to say go for the company you feel comfortable with not necessarily the cheapest. It's likely the existing cable could be used keeping costs down and mess to a minimum. Feel free to have a read of the posts in the DIY section, it's recommended if you want to see if your up to the task. That sort of price is about right dependant on kit and area etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsley Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Thanks for the advice! are there any good wired alarms with smart functionality? I've had a google but cant seem to find any decent looking brands that do it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kingsley said: Thanks for the advice! are there any good wired alarms with smart functionality? I've had a google but cant seem to find any decent looking brands that do it!! For diy pyronix enforcer, scrap the 9800 The other wired versions you will end up calling an engineer in anyway Edited February 15, 2017 by al-yeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistle Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I would just fit a 9651 in replacement,job done in about 2 hours and another good few years out of your existing system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixwheeledbeast Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Certainly wouldn't fit wireless from what the OP has said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrolhead Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I would fit a euro 46 app and a digi wifi or digi lan, or a premier elite and com wifi or com ip. programming on both of those is a bit involved however so i would get a pro in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan27 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sorry to resurrect this thread, but do I take it that I can replace my old (battered) 9800 keypad with a 9651 with key fobs, without having to change the panel? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Needs to be a complete upgrade, the keypad isn't interchangeable. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan27 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Thanks for the reply. So is there a newer version of the 9800 keypad that is compatible with the 9800 panel, or do I need to stick with the 9800 keypad (need to replace it because some buttons don't work and no LCD screen)? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 its long obsolete. you need a 9800 keypad for a 9800 panel, like asking about using a fiat ecu on a citreon engine etc Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, james.wilson said: fiat ecu on a citreon engine etc But that might work in some cases lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan27 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Thanks for the replies. I have found some 9600 keypads, much cheaper than 9800, and they look the same! Are you positive that they are not compatible? Sorry to bring this up again, just trying to save some money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vulcan27 said: Thanks for the replies. I have found some 9600 keypads, much cheaper than 9800, and they look the same! Are you positive that they are not compatible? buy one & report back... 1 Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Vulcan27 said: Thanks for the replies. I have found some 9600 keypads, much cheaper than 9800, and they look the same! Are you positive that they are not compatible? Sorry to bring this up again, just trying to save some money... So your going to put in an even older keypad if it was at possible lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, al-yeti said: So your going to put in an even older keypad if it was at possible lol I think 9800 was 1st cira 1989 ? Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-yeti Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, MrHappy said: I think 9800 was 1st cira 1989 ? Yeah maybe ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, MrHappy said: buy one & report back... LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, PeterJames said: LOL! The commission cheque from the kennel club still hasn't arrived... Quote Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbz Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I'm removing a 9800 tomorrow from a neighbours property I fitted about 20 years ago. Keypad is only 10 years old as I had to replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I've got an old oil filter from a 1989 escort only used once Should fit an orion or maybe a sierra Quote securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 9 hours ago, MrHappy said: The commission cheque from the kennel club still hasn't arrived... Bit ruff. Quote Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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